Re: (DS): Systems per Class

1) PDS counts.
2)PDS is specifically for auotmated anti-GMS work, not manual infantry
killing.

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Brian B
<greywanderer987@yahoo.com> writes:
>1. Re-read the paragraph above the one that you
>quoted, then tell me the pds doesnt count. 2. The
>problem is with the rule in general, not with
>hair-splitting about whether a specific system
>violates it or not.
>--- owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
><lerchey@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> You can do the slammers combat car in DSII without
>breaking the rules as 
>> they are written.  It explicitely states that the
>"free" APSW does NOT 
>> count towards any capacity or size limitations
>issues (Page 11: ALL 
>> MILITARY VEHICLES ARE FITTED WITH ONE "FREE" APSW,
>CAPABLE OF ALL-ROUND 
>> FIRE; THIS WEAPON DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS ANY WEAPONS
>FIT LIMITATIONS, OR 
>> TAKE UP ANY CAPACITY.).  Thus, your combat car (size
>2) with 3 APSWs is 
>> within the "2 weapons max" limit despite the third
>weapon.  Further, the 
>> PDS is not listed as a "weapon" but rather as a
>"defensive system".  E.G.,
>> it doesn't count as a "weapon" because it can't be
>used to attack anything.
>> 
>> <shrug>
>> 
>> I don't see the problem.
>> ;)
>> 
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> John K. Lerchey
>> Computer and Network Security Coordinator
>> Computing Services
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Robertson, Brendan wrote:
>> 
>> > There are practical reasons for allowing more
>SAW/PDS type weapons on the
>> > designs; it lets you build a Slammers combat car
>for example (size 2, 3 x
>> > SAW is DSII and size 2, 3 x PIG in SGII).
>> > It also makes vehicles more effective in close
>assault actions (as only
>> > SAW/PDS weapons can fire in DSII close assaults).
>> >
>> > Brendan
>> > 'Neath Southern Skies
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: John K Lerchey
>[mailto:lerchey@andrew.cmu.edu]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:21 AM
>> >>
>> >> Hm.  I don't see how this is a "consensus" issue,
>unless my reading
>> >> comprehension skills are suffering badly.  I just
>re-read the vehicle
>> >> design rules.  It clearly states that you may
>have one
>> >> *weapon system* per
>> >> size point of the vehicle.  It says nothing about
>limits on
>> >> non-weapons
>> >> other than the fact that they use capacity.
>> >>
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