Re: Vietnam and modern combat

Alan and Carmel Brain wrote:

>From: "Derk Groeneveld" <derk@cistron.nl>
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>>>And still very happy to have USN presence in the region I'm sure. 
>>>Still, from what I've heard, your sub forces are cheekey bastards
that 
>>>like to take pictures of USN Carrier hulls from underwater.
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>>Sounds like the Dutch ones, too ;)
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>>From some of the pictures I saw while working at Hollandse Signaal
Apparaten
>(HSA, Signaal) - could be. :-)
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Nowadays Thales Netherlands BV - but m ost people often seem to forget 
that and still call it Signaal. Similarly, most every department change 
names at least once or twice over the last 8 years. Most people stop 
keeping track ;)

But yeah, there's some pictures, and many more in Den Helder (Dutch 
naval base). Also, there's one sub's crew that at some point took to 
wearing caps with their sub "eating" a Nimitz class carrier... 
Apparantly they'd "sunk" it during an exercise and got away to boot - 
much to the US admiral's displeasure. Diesel subs in shallow waters can 
be downright nasty....

>My favourite was the one taken through the periscope of a German U-206
class
>boat, showing the very slavic features of the pilot of a Ka-25A
HORMONE-A ASW
>helicopter, staring impassively at the scope. The helo must have been
all of
>20 feet away. I've often wondered what's Russki for *GOTCHA*
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Lol. That must've been bad for someone's rep, too...

Cheers,

    Derk