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Re: Concept: mass and mass

From: <warbeads@j...>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:53:07 -0600
Subject: Re: Concept: mass and mass

Okay, silly question - Why?

Are you comparing the ship in grams to the ship listing in the books in
mass?

At an undefined scale and with no guarantee of consistency between
models
of the same nationality  (how much difference is 1 mass at any common SF
starship scale anyway?	I have no clue) how consistent 'should' the
weights (grams) be to the mass (tons)?	Given that the models are
honestly more 'counters' then models - despite the beautiful sculpting
which i cannot approach) - what is the goal of this exercise?  Are you
seeing if the same 'paper tonnage' ships of the various forces are
consistent?

It sounds like a lot of work but I am obviously missing the reason you
are going to this much trouble...

That said, interesting numbers.  What's an LL?	 I think I can figure
out
CCC, CB (old BC?,)  CC, CC-B, CBA, and CBL.  Maybe.  Isn't SS Submarine
???  Some of the Acronyms are not clear since I don't have the books in
front of me.

Gracias,
Glenn

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 00:09:09 -0800 (PST) John Leary
<john_t_leary@yahoo.com> writes:
>Greetings,
>     I have been trying to measure the mass (in grams)
>of the GZG ships. (Using my wifes (food scale.)
>Naturally the lack of all of the GZG ships is a
>problem
>as well as the basic lack of accuracy of the scale
>when dealing with less the 10 grams.	End of gripes.
>     The desired end was to wse the actual mass of the
>ship to determime the mass of the FTFB ship.	The
>problem occured when the smaller ships were not 
>sufficenty massive to provide a measurable difference
>on the scale (in grams).   I frequently had to use 
>5 to 10 ships	to provide a basis for a speculative
>measurement.	In any case, a scentific sca;e with
>proper calibration would be an improvement in the 
>rough values obtained by the food scale.
>As a sample, I provide the following items from the 
>most commonly available ships: ( Mass for ship
>construction was determined by ((Mass +4) X 2) NAC:
>NAC CVA, 216; SDN, 220; CVL, 168; BB, 86; CB, 80;
>CH, 48; CE, 28; CL, 32; DD, 20; FH, 14; LL, 12; 
>NSL: SDN 384(with voids filled 448); BDN, 160;
>CH, 76; DD, 20; NI: BB,96; CE, 36; DD,23: 
>UN: SDN, 188; BDN, 152; CH, 80; DD, 18; CC-B, 14;
>FSE: CBA, 268; CBL, 132; BB, 60; CH,56; CL, 38; 
>DDH, 24; DD, 18; CC, 13; ESU: BB,76; CH,34; 
>DD, 22; CC, 10 SS, 10: kRA'VAK: SDN, 196; BDN, 116;
>BB, 76; CB, 68; CH, 54; CE, 38; CL, 30; DD, 24; 
>FF, 18; CC 11; SS, 9; SH;VASKU; CVL, 52; CH,28;
>CE, 20; CL, 16; SS, 11; CC, 10; SS, 9; FCT; DD, 22.
>
>comments welcome.
>
>Bye for now,
>John L.
>
>
> 
>
>
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