Re: [SG2] AGL vs SAW

Cloaking Lurker Mode Off...

Seeing how nobody else tuned up, I will.  The weapon you describe is the
M174.  It was used, in Vietnam and fired most standard velocity 40mm
grenades.  Note the Mark 19 fires special high velocity grenades.  Basic
stats for the M174E3 version are as follows:

Empty Weight: 16 lbs.
Loaded Weight: 26 lbs.
Overall Length: 28 in.
Muzzle Velocity: 250 fps.
Type of Fire: Selective
Cyclic Rate: 300 rpm
Max Range: 1,200 ft
Feed Device: 12 round drum  Note, this is for the man portable, not
vehicle
mounted version.
Grenades that will not feed: M576E1 Multiple projectile round (#4
Buckshot)
Grenades too long to fit: CS Gas M651E1; all flare and smoke grenades.
Note: these grenades can be loaded individually and fired one at a time.

The big advantage when compared to the Mark 19 is logistics, the same
grenades feed everything with the M174.  The down side is much shorter
range, lower cyclic rate, and slightly less filler (explosives) in the
HE
grenades.

I have a b&w picture of the M174E3 mounted on a M122 (M60) tripod in a
book.
If anyone is interested, e-mail me OFF LIST and I will scan it in and
send
it to you...

ias

----- Original Message -----
From: <DAWGFACE47@webtv.net>
To: <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
Cc: <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [SG2] AGL vs SAW

>
> THE MK 19 AGL is after my own time in combat, but, i did use the  hand
> cranked, belt fed,  pintel-mounted 40mm grenade launcher in combat.
>
> this thing, i got from the  riverine	Navy, was a strange looking
> weapon.
>
> a square box, with a pistol grip, and a barrel that was about 6",
maybe
> 12" long (memory is not clear about the barrel length).  i think i
> remember very primitive sights on it too. used those belted 40mm
rounds
> like a HUEYCOBRA or SLICKS used.  limited elevation, too. weighed
about
> 10 pounds, i would SWAG.
>
> like shooting a gatling blooper, bad news AREA  weapon down range, but
> not a POINT weapon except by accident. the round carried about 100
yards
> with accuracy as i recall, then was likely to go anywhere down range
> beyond that.
>
> had some problems with jamming too, as i recall.
>
>
> the weird thing is, i have NEVER seen any photos of this  thing, and
> except for MPs who mounted them on  V-100s in the Delta and  riverine
> Navy types in the Delta, no one i have talked too ever saw one either
.
> . .
>
> i have often wondered if these were  unit armorer field (made)
> expedient  belt fed GLs.
>
> DAWGIE
>