RE: [SG2] AGL vs SAW

Many moons ago, I was at a range where they were testing the MK19 (prior
to the 
Army getting it) VERY impressive in a "I DON'T want to be on the other
end" 
kind of way.  Seems to me that the targets were more than 600m.

Michael Brown

-----Original Message-----
From:	FlakMagnet72
Sent:	Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:25 AM
To:	gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject:	Re: [SG2] AGL vs SAW

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 11:35 am, Popeyesays@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 10/28/03 9:54:33 AM Central Standard Time,
>
> mwbrown@sonic.net writes:
> > Think of the AGL as an HMG that shots things that go BOOM.	This is
an
> > area effect weapon, the chance to hit is based on HE effects, not
direct
> > hits by individual rounds (really bad for the receiving team). 
Range
> > should be better
> > than a SAW, more powder behind the round.
> >
> > Michael Brown
>
> In modern parlance the US GL is attached to the barrel of an assault
rifle
> and bloops rounds out to about 300 meters. The AGL version (the Mark
19
> AGL) is a heavy weapon meant for a tripod or a vehicle mount. The
grenade
> is higherpowered than the simple GL round, but its range is really
only
> about double to 600 meters or so. The SAW on a bipod can be accurate
to at
> least 800 meters, maybe a thousand.

The Mk19 is accurate on area targets (it's firing grenades after all) to
a
much higer range than just 600 meters.

I've personally peppered designated area targets with multiple rounds
out to
1200meters, and the weapon is "offically" rated for area targets out to
2200
meters.

http://www.army.mil/fact_files_site/mk19-3/

Now if you're focusing on the effective range of the Mk-19 on POINT
targets,
you're killing flies with a hammer.  It's the wrong weapon for that
application.  The Mk-19 is a "close enough" weapon by it's very nature
of
chucking grenades.

The Mk-19 fires on a very slow velocity.  If you position yourself
behind (in
front is discouraged) the weapon in line with the barrel and watch
closely,
you can actually see the round moving away from you as a dark blur.

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--Tim
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