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Re: Islam was: 2nd and 3rd rate powers

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 07:32:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Islam was: 2nd and 3rd rate powers


--- "K.H.Ranitzsch" <KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de> wrote:

> > > Forcible conversion of individuals is even
> > > doctrinally frowned upon, AFAIK.
> >
> > That's not what the Koran says.
> 
> Which Sura and Verse, please ?

Surah V. v.51:	O ye who believe!  Take not the Jews
and the Christians for friends.

Surah VII, v.4-5: How many a township have We
destroyed!  As a raid by night, while they slept at
noon, Our terror came upon them.  No plea had they,
when Our terror came unto them.

Surah VIII, v19: And fight them until all persecution
is no more and religion is all for Allah.  

Surah IX, v5: Then, when the sacred months have
passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and
take them, and besiege them, and prepare for them the
ambush.

Surah IX, v9: How can there be a treaty with Allah and
with His messenger for the idolaters?

Surah IX, v14: Fight them!  Allah will chastise them
at your hands, and he will lay them low.

Surah IX, v41: Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed,
and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way
of Allah!

Surah IX, v52: Say: Can ye await for us aught save one
of two good things (death or victory in Allah's way)?
while we await for you that Allah will afflict you
with a doom from Him or at our hands?  

Surah IX, v73: O Prophet!  Strive against the
disbelievers and the hypocrites!  Be harsh with them. 
Their ultimate abode is in hell, a hapless
journey's-end.

Surah IX, v123:  O ye who believe!  Fight those of the
disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find
harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those
who keep their duty.

Surah VIII, v65-67: O Prophet!	Exhort the believers
to fight.  If there be of you twenty steadfast they
shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a
hundred steadfast they shall overcome a thousand of
those who disbelieve, because they are a folk without
intelligence.  Now hath Allah lightened your burden,
for He knoweth that there is weakness in you.  So if
there be of you a steadfast hundred they shall
overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a
thousand they shall overcome two thousand by the
permission of Allah.  Allah is with the steadfast.  It
is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has
made slaughter in the land.  

Surah IX, v.29:  Fight against such of those who have
been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor
the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath
forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the
religion of truth, until they pay the tribute readily,
being brought low.

Surah II, v. 244: Fight in the way of Allah, and know
that Allah is the Hearer, Knower.

Surah III, v. 157&158: And what though ye be slain in
Allah's way or die therein?  Surely pardon from Allah
and mercy are better than all that they amass.	What
though ye be slain or die, when unto Allah ye are
gathered?

Surah VI, v. 34: Men are in charge of women, because
Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other. 
(Hey, it's a seperate subject.	I just LOVE that quote
because I throw it in the face of every woman who
tries to preach tolerance of Islam.  Under Islam
they'd have no right to contradict me.)

Surah IV, v.84: So fight, O Muhammad, in the way of
Allah--Thou are not taxed with responsibility for
anyone except for thyself--and urge on the believers. 
Peradventure Allah will restrain the might of those
who disbelieve.

Surah IV v. 89: So choose not friends from them till
they forskake their homes in the way of Allah; if they
turn back then take them and kill them wherever ye
find them, and choose no friend nor helper from them.

Surah IV v. 95: Those of the believers who sit still,
other than those who have a disabling hurt, are not on
an equality with those who strive in the way of Allah
with their wealth and their lives.

Surah IV v. 104: Relent not in pursuit of the enemy.  

Surah V v.33: The only reward of those who make war
upon Allah and His messenger and strive after
corruption in the land will be that they will be
killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on
alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of
the land.

Surah V. v.49: And if they turn away, then know that
Allah's will is to smite them for some sin of theirs.

John

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