Re: [HIST] Japanese Culture shock

At 9:07 AM -0500 6/26/02, Allan Goodall wrote:

>
>The "exciting" period is the several hundred years between the Heien
era and
>the Tokugawa era. The period of the two imperial courts, and the Onin
War
>(where ashigaru started to form) are particularly interesting.

When warlords vied for power and bandits roamed the lands taking what 
they wanted from the peasants.

Any idea when Shichinin-no Samurai takes place? It's post Portugese 
visitors as there are three arquebus's in use by the bandits (one 
that Kikuchio snags and the other that Gorobei takes).

>  >And as I said, what people know of from the movies takes place in
>>these later periods not the far earlier periods. Tsubaki Sanjuro and
>>Yojibo take place in post 1600 Japan.
>
>What I know isn't from movies, but from reading. Everything I talked
about
>with regard to samurai versus knights was from the pre-Sengoku Jidai
period.
>
>Oh, and Yojimbo and Sanjuro take place in the late 19th Century.

 From the accounts I've seen, they are placed some time in the 
Tokugawa likely middle to late 17th century. I'll have to watch it 
again and read the credits....

>I was comparing Japanese 13th Century to European 13th Century.
Lamellar
>armour was used, though the sweeping portions of the helmet were much
>different from later eras (indeed, the construction of the helmet was a
bit
>different), the armour had little metal in it, the body of the armour
was box
>like instead of rounded, and the samurai were still dual-armed (bow and
>sword). It's still a valid comparison, though.

Sodesu...

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