Re: Rules of Engagement examples (DSII/SGII)

>> The ROE stated that they should NOT be shot at,
>> because after throwing the grenades,
>> they were no threat.
>> 
>> In Australia, we call this "Bullsh*t". 
>
>Wow. . .in US ROEs they would be shot at when they
>pulled the grenades.

You only know it's a grenade not a stone when it goes off.

> And if they executed their
>attack and started to flee after, until they stopped
>moving.

Depending on exact ROE, usually allowing them a few seconds to stop
after a
command "HALT!" (or whatever the local language is) before firing. Or
not.

This was what the first group did - warned em 3 times before opening up
- and
was mildly rebuked for it, by an officer using a very obviously faked
primary-school
manner. 

Officer: "Corporal, why did your squad fire?"

Cpl A (consulting his "Peacekeeping in Kosovo for Dummies" plasticised
ROE sheet):
"They-were-actively-attacking-so-were-a-threat-so-by-rule-13B-we-were-al
lowed-to-fire-after-giving-three-warnings-SAH!"

 
Officer: "Can anyone tell me what they did wrong? Anyone? You,
corporal.."

Cpl B: (consulting his plasticised "Janet And John Go To Kosovo" card)
"By-Rule-11-after-making-the-attack-they-were-no-longer-a-threat-so-were
-ineligible-targets-SAH!"

Officer: "Very Good."

The look on the faces of the squaddies being "trained" was priceless.
While
remaining absolutely poker-faced, they managed to convey telepathically
the
following:

"I'm on camera at the moment, trying not to bugger up my career.
Peacekeeping's
F**ing dangerous. It's vital that we give the right impression of
restraint,
and don't give the F***ing chattering classes any opportunity to cut the
MoD
(UK Ministry of Defence) budget yet again. We know this is all F**ing
Ballocks.
The officer teaching us knows its all F**ing Ballocks. We're all
desperately
trying not to burst out laughing, and the officer is NOT making it any
easier
by playing the F**ing Kindergarten Teacher, the Bastard. Anyone who sees
this
who has half a F**ing brain will know what we're thinking. Anyone who
tries
to follow these brain-dead instructions is too F**ing stupid to live.
But we'll
parrot the F**ing PC answer and do what's sensible in the field, cos the
F**ing
Rent-A-Crowd Mob are so stupid they won't know the difference."

It's wonderful what just a few seconds glimpse of someone's face will
show.

>US ROEs are not written by the UN and hence actually
>make a good deal of sense.