RE: Scouts.....

Actually I would put that down to a leadership and motivation problem,
not
cowardice or stupidity.

More likely they are so task saturated that they can only spend the
minimum
on each task.  This would make their spot reports less than useful for
the
engineers.

That is where the leadership comes in, give them the time to do the
tasks
that are most important.

Motivation and discipline to get out there near the mines and under
those
bridges.

Bob Makowsky

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> [mailto:owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU]On Behalf Of John Atkinson
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:34 PM
> To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
> Subject: RE: Scouts.....
>
>
> OK, here's the problem with 19Ds.
>
> They think a spot report with an estimated
> center-of-mass grid done through hi-power optics from
> 4 km off is a good obstacle recon.  We[1] tried
> explaining that you have to get close enough to
> identify the nature of the minefield (buried/surface
> laid, AT/AP/Mixed, all 4 corner grids, PRECISELY, type
> of fencing, bypass or not).  They don't grasp this.
>
> My squad leader tells me of being attached to 19Ds who
> absolutely could not comprehend the fact that you
> cannot determine classification of bridges without
> getting under them.
>
> In short, they don't want to get close enough to get
> useful information.  Maybe it's stupidity.  Maybe it's
> cowardice.  But it's one or the other and cowardice is
> the more insulting of the choices.
>
> John
>
> [1]Engineers in general, not me personally.
>

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