Re: Stormtroopers N tie fighters

Good point about TIE Fighter Tomb, and if we'd seen any advanced models 
besides Vader's protoype model	I'd have mentioned them :-)

But eveyone needs to see Troops. I showed it to an ex-Air Force MP and 
she almost had an asthma atatck what with the laughing and the hilarity 
and the help me, I can't breathe right. [1]

[1] Having a Prof. Frink moment.

Thomas Barclay wrote:

>It has been said:
>
>Based on the more "realistic" battles in the 
>X-Wing series I can say that 15 X Wings 
>can kill a lot of TIE fighters, and a Y-Wing 
>that wants to waste torpedoes on a flight 
>of TIEs can knock out 6-8 in a head-on 
>pass from more than 3km. The Imperials 
>want at least 2-1 odds against X- and Y- 
>wings, preferrably 3-1 just to make it 
>challenging. I could see 90-120 elite TIEs 
>being involved, and most of those ending
>getting smoked. I'll have to look into the X-
>Wing Allliance mod scene and see if anyone 
>has tried to do the battle as one big 
>mission.
>
>[Tomb] Obviously you never played TIE 
>FIGHTER. You were obviously flying against 
>the reserve squadrons and the rejects from 
>the Empire's first line formations. In Tie 
>Fighter, it was admittedly a challenge to 
>take on an X-Wing with a classic tie fighter 
>(can you see no shields, Batman?) but 
>some of the advanced TIE FIGHTERS could 
>stand with any rebel fighter in the game. 
>And as an added plus, if you learned how 
>to fly in a fighter that couldn't take a good 
>hit, then you could wade through better 
>fighters quite easily. 
>
>[Tomb] A lot of our perception of the 
>Empire is from seeing some small chunk of 
>them in action against the ultimate Rebel 
>Leaders. They did fairly well on Hoth, and I 
>think the planet Yavin would attest to the 
>potence of Imperial Power. If you look at 
>the source material for WEG and from most 
>of the novels (argh!), you discover that the 
>Empire is large and has very potent military 
>forces. Or so we keep getting told. If it isn't 
>actually true (and some game rules might 
>make one think it was not), then the 
>Empire has one incredibly potent asset: 
>Great PR. If their guys get slaughtered in 
>racks, and they still keep adverts going that 
>say a Stormtrooper is the Best of the Best 
>and keep getting recruits, that pretty much 
>says it all. 
>
>[Tomb] One last thought before you dump 
>too much on Tie Fighter pilots. If you 
>consider the three sanctioned Han Solo 
>books by Brian Daley (the earliest, pretty 
>much, of the SW novels, long ago) to be 
>canon, then Han went to Imperial Academy 
>and was an interceptor/fighter pilot. So 
>apparently they have had a few excellent 
>pilots from time to time. 
>
>[Tomb] One last thought: If anyone hasn't 
>hunted up the internet movie Troops, you 
>really have to. It's a cross between COPS 
>and SW. It shows a day in the life of 
>Imperial Law Enforcement (Stormtroopers) 
>on a little place called Tatooine. And it puts 
>a WHOLE other spin on the Beru/Owen 
>Lars crime scene. Oh, and it is _really_ well 
>done for something not done by Lucas 
>Himself. 
>
>Tomb Raider
>PS - Derek, I think it was 40K Rogue 
>Trader, not Rouge Trader.... though the 
>latter is a very humorous idea... :) 
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