RE: HIGH TECH WONDER INDIVIDUAL WEAPON
From: Tim Gray <tgray@a...>
Date: 04 Feb 2002 09:11:45 -0500
Subject: RE: HIGH TECH WONDER INDIVIDUAL WEAPON
WTF is an REMF? I'm LLMF when it comes to that acronym.
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From: Tim Gray <tgray@adacplastics.com>
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> On 3-Feb-02 at 21:32, Brian Burger (yh728@victoria.tc.ca) wrote:
>
> > The one exception would be if you've got some sort of oddball
> > prison-planet/colonization effort going on. Personally, I can see
better
> > things to do with habitable planets than use them as prisons. Stick
the
> > convicts in asteroid habs, and let regular people do your
colonizing.
>
But then there could be no colony analog to Australia, something that
the Aussies on this list might have an opinion about...
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Subject: Re: HIGH TECH WONDER INDIVIDUAL WEAPON
From: Tim Gray <tgray@adacplastics.com>
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Oh! R.ear E.chelon umm... M.ilitary F.orces...
Yeah, that's what it is... exactly... (or something).
--Flak
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 00:29, Derek Fulton wrote:
> At 07:54 3/02/02 -0500, Chris wrote:
> >If they feel that combat engineers are REMFs, they don't understand
> >what combat engineers do, or else they don't understand what "REMF"
> >means.
>
> To keep it simple, a REMF or what ever nickname pertains to your part
of
> the world is ANYONE who is further to the rear than you are. In the
> Australian Infantrymen's case that's just about everyone else ;)
>
> >Now let's go on to the next topic of conversation, shall we?
>
> Yes, let's. I await in eager anticipation of further topics and
> opportunities for John to demonstrate his combat engineering skills,
> specifically mine clearance as he stomps around putting his foot in
it,
> again! :)
>
> Cheers
>
> Derek (1104202, if memory serves)
>
>
>
>
> Derek Fulton
> 12 Balaka st.
> Rosny, Hobart.
> Tasmania, 7018.
> Australia
>
> Phone; (03) 62459123
> Mobile; 0438459123
> Email; derekfulton@bigpond.com
> URL; http://www.users.bigpond.com/derekfulton/
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Subject: whats a remf.. tim gray
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> WTF is an REMF?
A somewhat comfortably off personage to be found in the safer regions of
military operations and prone to sexual activities with his surviving
female
parent!!!
R being rear
E being echelon
M being mother
F being a 6 letter unsavoury sexually descriptive noun.
Bob Deangelis
PS definition kept formal for the benefit of the sensitive members of
this
list.
Hobby pages
www.angelfire.com/games4/chubbybob
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I do hate pop-unders.
Roger Books
On 4-Feb-02 at 02:36, Brian Burger (yh728@victoria.tc.ca) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In between fuming at my free webspace provider's stupidity
> (Freeservers...) I've done a huge update and overhaul of my site.
>
> Assuming Freeservers hasn't eaten the HTML again, check out:
>
> http://warbard.iwarp.com/games.html
>
> for a look at the new look and feel of my site. The whole thing isn't
> finished yet, but see:
>
> http://warbard.iwarp.com/sg2.html
>
> for one finished section.
>
> If it turns out Freeservers HAS eaten my files yet again, please let
me
> know...
>
> I think the new look works really well; it's easier on the eyes,
should be
> easier to navigate, and will be easier to adapt in the future.
>
> Have fun,
>
> Brian - yh728@victoria.tc.ca -
>
>
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Just give them permanent sterilzation after they've made the requisite
donation to the reproductive sperm/egg bank. If they want kids, they
can grow them in a tube. This would allow greater genetic diversity to
the communinity, since if the person in question leaves or is killed,
you still have access to the genetic material.
Besides by that point, cloning should be an accomplished technology and
you could generate gametes from a clip off someone's finger or even have
their complete genome on file.
--Binhan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laserlight [mailto:laserlight@quixnet.net]
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:43 PM
> To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: B Ark Colonist and Colonial Industry... [LONG[
>
>
>
> > Finding 10,000 MEN with 'that kind of self control' might be even
> more
> > difficult... :> So, stick the men with the contraceptive jab. It's
> our
> > problem too, gentlemen...
>
> Stick both--just in case.
>
>
> > The one exception would be if you've got some sort of oddball
> > prison-planet/colonization effort going on. Personally, I can see
> better
> > things to do with habitable planets than use them as prisons. Stick
> the
> > convicts in asteroid habs, and let regular people do your
> colonizing.
>
> Hey! What're you implying, here?
> <grin>
>
>
>
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From: Phillip Atcliffe <Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk>
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:41:18 -0600 (CST) DAWGFACE47@webtv.net wrote:
> refresh my oz slang; drongo-i cannot remember what this means. 34
years is a long time. <
Someone/thing who's stupid, incompetent, etc. -- though it can be used
affectionately, too. A real bird, but the use of the word as an
insult is alleged to come from the name of a racehorse with an
unspectacular career.
Personally, my favourite racehorse was always "Fred" -- and he used to
win races, too! <g>
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The issue with that is how you track how much an individual actually
contributes. It would be difficult to measure how much an individual
was responsible for an output of 10 tons of ore for that day. How much
would the guy operating the drill get? How much for the guy running the
ore cars? How much for the guy setting the explosives? What if the
vein ran cold, is your sentence extended? I can see great abuse of the
system, with supervisors consistently under-reporting their yields to
keep the work force around longer - after all why let your best miner's
go after only a year or two when you can have them work for three or
four years - doubling your production from them.
>From a capitalist point of view that would be a terrible system,
releasing the best workers and retaining the worst. I can see the camps
being run on a fixed sentence with perqs given for good behavior, higher
productivity etc. If you make your quota, you get a double alcohol
ration or an extra vid-magazine. If you exceed your quota, you get a
day off in the rec area proportional to the amount you exceeded quota.
Etc.
There is still room for abuses (like how do you keep the bully from
stealing your extra alcohol ration) or excessive penalties for failure
to meet quota but I don't see it being any different than current
prision systems. There will probably always be watchdog groups to help
verify treatment and living conditions of prisoners.
--Binhan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Books [mailto:books@jumpspace.net]
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:41 PM
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>
> On 3-Feb-02 at 21:32, Brian Burger (yh728@victoria.tc.ca) wrote:
>
> > The one exception would be if you've got some sort of oddball
> > prison-planet/colonization effort going on. Personally, I
> can see better
> > things to do with habitable planets than use them as
> prisons. Stick the
> > convicts in asteroid habs, and let regular people do your
> colonizing.
>
> A different kind of sentence. Put them in a dangerous environment
> that needs minerals extracted. They are sentanced to produce X
> amount of mineral at which point they are set free. Those with
> drive that could be an asset to society get free sooner because
> they work hard. Those that are lazy (or stupid) never return.
>
> Roger Books
>
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In future tech it would be moot to track heredity through either parent.
a) Fetuses will be modified in vitro or pre-utero to remove the most
dangerous genetic defects - you will no longer be limited to what your
parents DNA offers. If you alter the DNA enough are you still your
parent's child?
b) Maternity is traced through the mitochondria DNA - the power
organelles supplied by the egg. In the future, with cloning, the person
who donates the egg, may not be the same people who contribute the DNA.
c) What if there is no mother? If the person in question is a clone or
received combined DNA from two males or received DNA from more than two
people then paternity/maternity is a far more complex item.
d) It will become less of an issue of who your parents are than who you
are. No longer will your parent's genes, grandparent's genes or great
grand parents genes matter. As stock brokers say - previous performance
is not an indicator for future results. Your genes for intelligence,
strength, health, eyesight, hearing etc will be modified to be the best
that genes can provide, regardless of what your parents had. Saying
that, this service may not be generally available, and perhaps only the
richest of the rich will be able to afford to custom design their
children. In this case, having a complete genomic record on file might
become standard. (see GATTACA)
--Binhan
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>
> On a related but quite different track, I would expect
> colonies to trace
> descent through the mother, because the mother of a child is
> always easy
> to determine at birth, while the father may not be. If the society is
> advanced enough to have genetic tracking, and the society permits its
> use, this wouldn't matter, but otherwise... Other people may, of
> course, have different ideas, but I would imagine that babies get born
> out of wedlock rather more often in colonial societies, and
> matriarchal
> lineage would make it a lot easier to eliminate the possible social
> stigma of being a "fatherless child".
>
> As far as which to implant, for a similar reason it is probably more
> effective to implant the women, unless there are strict
> controls on new
> immigration (and visits) to the planet. Shoreside visits by sailors
> could have serious repercussions otherwise...
>
> Various people wrote:
> >
> > > Hrm. . . Could I find 10,000 women with that kind of
> > > self-control? Possible, but I'd want to enforce it.
> > > Maybe a 1- or 2-year contraceptive implant?
>
> =====
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On 2/3/02 6:52 PM, "Jaime Tiampo" <fugu@spikyfishthing.com> wrote:
> Fighter missiles:
> Cost: 1pt per fighter
> GE: Adds +1 to fighter attack roll once
> Entire group must fire missiles at once
My gut feeling is that the point cost is low, but I haven't done the
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>> Hrm. . . Could I find 10,000 women with that kind of self-control?
>Sure -- look in any large, modern university.
>-- Rick Rutherford
The difficulty them becomes sorting out the 10,000 who qualify from the
rest
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I'd be interested in the list of the ones that failed, particularly
those that failed the tests/screening process miserably...
--Flak
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> >> Hrm. . . Could I find 10,000 women with that kind of self-control?
>
> >Sure -- look in any large, modern university.
> >-- Rick Rutherford
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> The difficulty them becomes sorting out the 10,000 who qualify from
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laserlight@quixnet.net wrote:
> > > Hrm. . . Could I find 10,000 women with that kind of self-control?
> >
> >Sure -- look in any large, modern university.
>
> The difficulty them becomes sorting out the 10,000 who qualify from
the
> rest
Yes, I'd assume that the "Colonist Selection Process" would eliminate
the unwary & irresponsible people (both male & female).
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I finally ordered the rules (all three books) and am eagerly awaiting
their
arrival. Before they arrive, I would like to ask a few questions to get
myself in thee right frame of mind for the game:
1) what size of naval units is the game designed to be ideal for?
2) How is FTL travel handled? Is it a jump (al la B5), a "Warp" al la
Star
Trek, or a "hyperspace" a la Star Wars? Or is it up to the player?
3) How common are non-FTL system defense ships, and how big do they get?
4) What's the average size for miniatures for different classes of
ships?
5) Kieran Rohan mentioned a gaming group up in Portland, ORe. If he's
reading this, can he tell me if they play FT?
2B^2
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Robert Minadeo wrote:
> Sorry. Should have been more specific.
>
> The lettering on the home page is a dark blue and quite easy to
discern.
>
> The lettering on the Plasma in the Morning page is of a lighter blue
and
> hard to read.
This is one of the things I was experimenting with during the redesign;
I
agree that the darker blue is better against the background patterns &
colours I'm using now.
I'll standardize the whole site this week.
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Roger Books wrote:
> I do hate pop-unders.
Don't we all? :>
These are part of the new, highly irritating Freeservers; they used to
just have banner ads at the top of each page, which was fine. Now
they've
got banners AND popups/popunders.
Want to know something interesting? If you browse with Opera
(www.opera.com) none of the Freeservers popups appear! Ditto a number of
other irritating popups from other websites! I only realized Freeservers
had added popups when a friend told me; I always surf w/ Opera...
I'm still looking for a new webspace provider to move my site to...
Brian - yh728@victoria.tc.ca -
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>
> Roger Books
>
> On 4-Feb-02 at 02:36, Brian Burger (yh728@victoria.tc.ca) wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In between fuming at my free webspace provider's stupidity
> > (Freeservers...) I've done a huge update and overhaul of my site.
> >
> > Assuming Freeservers hasn't eaten the HTML again, check out:
> >
> > http://warbard.iwarp.com/games.html
> >
> > for a look at the new look and feel of my site. The whole thing
isn't
> > finished yet, but see:
> >
> > http://warbard.iwarp.com/sg2.html
> >
> > for one finished section.
> >
> > If it turns out Freeservers HAS eaten my files yet again, please let
me
> > know...
> >
> > I think the new look works really well; it's easier on the eyes,
should be
> > easier to navigate, and will be easier to adapt in the future.
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Brian - yh728@victoria.tc.ca -
> >
> >
>
>
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On 2/4/02 10:49 AM, "Brian Bilderback" <bbilderback@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 1) what size of naval units is the game designed to be ideal for?
"Fleet-sized," though that can be anywhere from 3 ships to 30+,
depending on
how many people you have. Average fleets tend to be about 7-10 ships.
> 2) How is FTL travel handled? Is it a jump (al la B5), a "Warp" al la
Star
> Trek, or a "hyperspace" a la Star Wars? Or is it up to the player?
Somewhat akin to ST or SW, though not exactly either.
> 3) How common are non-FTL system defense ships, and how big do they
get?
You tell us :-) Canon is pretty vague on this point, and besides, you're
encouraged to make up your own anyway.
> 4) What's the average size for miniatures for different classes of
ships?
All approximate and vary according to nation, etc.
DD - 3cm
CH - 5-6cm
DN - 8-10cm
Schoon
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Subject: Re: [FT] IJN Designs?
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Jaime Tiempo wrote:
>Here's my take on some IJN ships as I wait in anticipation for my mega
>fleet to arrive. :) Tell me what you think.
Initial comment: These designs are all heavily geared towards Vector
combat, rather than Cinematic.
>Destoyer: MASS COST
>Mass = 44 - 44
>Cost = 152
>Thrust = 6 13 26
>FTL = Normal 4 8
>CrewFactors = 3
>DP = 8; 2/2/2/2 8 16
>Armor Box = 4 4 8
>Weapons and Such
># Name
>2 Class 2 Battery, 4 12
> 3 arcs (ap/fp/f; f/fs/as)
>3 Class 3 Battery, 1 arc (f) 12 36
>1 Fire Control 1 4
>2 PDS 2 6
----------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL 48
Illegal design; 8 MASS too many.
>Heavy Cruiser:
Legal
>Heavy Cruiser {Missile}:
>Mass = 8
>Cost = 291
Should be "Mass = 84, Cost = 293". Apart from that it's OK.
>Battlecruiser:
Legal
>Battleship: MASS COST
>Mass = 134 - 134
>Cost = 460
>Thrust = 4 27 54
>FTL = Normal 13 26
>CrewFactors = 7
>DP = 26; 7/7/6/6 26 52
>Armor Box: 12 12 24
>Shields = 2 13 39
>Weapons and Such
># Name
>2 Class 2 Battery, 4 12
> 3 arcs (ap/fp/f; f/fs/as)
>4 Class 3 Battery, 1 arc (f) 16 48
>2 Class 4 Battery, 1 arc (f) 16 48
>4 PDS 4 12
>1 ADFC 2 8
------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL 133 457
1 MASS unused; according to the NPV you've specified (460) it should be
a
weapon or PDS. I would however suggest that you make that one missing
MASS
an FCS instead; otherwise all those weapons are unable to fire at all...
>Super Dreadnought:
Legal
>Fleet Carrier: MASS COST
>Mass = 244 - 244
>Cost = 836 + fighters
>Thrust = 4 49 98
>FTL = Normal 24 48
>CrewFactors = 13
>DP = 48; 12/12/12/12 48 96
>Armour Box = 19 19 38
>Shields = 1 12 36
>Weapons and Such
># Name
>6 Class 2 Battery, 12 36
> 3 arcs (2 x ap/fp/f;
> 2 x fp/f/fs; 2 x f/fs/as)
>2 SML (ap/fp/f; f/fs/as) 6 18
>2 Std SML Salvo 4 12
>2 ER SML Salvo 6 18
>2 Fire Control 2 8
>6 PDS 6 18
>1 ADFC 2 8
>6 Empty Fighter Bay 54 162
-----------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL 244 840
Legal design, but the NPV was incorrect
Regards,
Oerjan
oerjan.ohlson@telia.com
"Life is like a sewer.
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> Okay, so far it's been about boarding armed naval craft of
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Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote:
>
> > 1) what size of naval units is the game designed to be ideal for?
>
>"Fleet-sized," though that can be anywhere from 3 ships to 30+,
depending
>on
>how many people you have. Average fleets tend to be about 7-10 ships.
Cool, doesn't sound like too huge an outlay to start. Do most fleets
center
around a Battleship, Carrier, or does it vary with power?
> > 2) How is FTL travel handled? Is it a jump (al la B5), a "Warp" al
la
>Star
> > Trek, or a "hyperspace" a la Star Wars? Or is it up to the player?
>
>Somewhat akin to ST or SW, though not exactly either.
That too is cool, although I'm saure you could PSB any sort of effects,
no?
> > 3) How common are non-FTL system defense ships, and how big do they
get?
>
>You tell us :-) Canon is pretty vague on this point, and besides,
you're
>encouraged to make up your own anyway.
I'm thinking of, once I've learned the game, designing a "Cutter,"
something in the destroyer to Cruiser range, but without FTL, to handle
system defense on far-flung colony systems.
> > 4) What's the average size for miniatures for different classes of
>ships?
>
>All approximate and vary according to nation, etc.
>
>DD - 3cm
>CH - 5-6cm
>DN - 8-10cm
Cool, I have some bits and stuff as well as some B5 figs that will work
well.
By the way, do the rules cover things like asteroid bases, etc.?
2B^2
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On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 12:16:50PM -0800, Brian Bilderback wrote:
>Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote:
>>"Fleet-sized," though that can be anywhere from 3 ships to 30+,
depending
>>on
>>how many people you have. Average fleets tend to be about 7-10 ships.
>Cool, doesn't sound like too huge an outlay to start. Do most fleets
>center around a Battleship, Carrier, or does it vary with power?
Depends on what you want. I think most of us start with some generic
miniatures and let them represent whatever's needed, rather than having
a permanent fleet from the beginning.
>>Somewhat akin to ST or SW, though not exactly either.
>That too is cool, although I'm saure you could PSB any sort of effects,
no?
Yes. The rules deal with (a) entering FTL during battle (it's hazardous)
and (b) entering battle via FTL drive. Both of these suggest a "jump"
style of FTL travel.
>I'm thinking of, once I've learned the game, designing a "Cutter,"
>something in the destroyer to Cruiser range, but without FTL, to handle
>system defense on far-flung colony systems.
Certainly this is consistent with canon; but remember to build enough
tugs/tenders to shift them around...
>By the way, do the rules cover things like asteroid bases, etc.?
Bases are mentioned briefly but haven't been conceptually updated for
the FB rules yet. (In essence: small bases are thrust-0 ships with no
firing arc restrictions; larger bases are small bases clumped together.)
Roger
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I'll hit what Roger didn't (or what I have to add)
On 2/4/02 12:16 PM, "Brian Bilderback" <bbilderback@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Cool, doesn't sound like too huge an outlay to start. Do most fleets
center
> around a Battleship, Carrier, or does it vary with power?
Though there are canon stats for the powers, organization has not yet
been
covered. Some are stronger (by design) in certain aspects, but you can
construct a fleet however you like.
> That too is cool, although I'm saure you could PSB any sort of
effects, no?
One of the great strengths of the FT system is that it is so adaptable.
In
short, the answer is yes.
> I'm thinking of, once I've learned the game, designing a "Cutter,"
> something in the destroyer to Cruiser range, but without FTL, to
handle
> system defense on far-flung colony systems.
Go for it.
> Cool, I have some bits and stuff as well as some B5 figs that will
work
> well.
I believe that there are even B5 stats out there.
> By the way, do the rules cover things like asteroid bases, etc.?
Sort of; they haven't been specifically addressed in the new rules.
Schoon
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----- Original Message -----
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> Yep I agree, thats me never visiting Oz if I can possibly help it.
I'm glad I only knew half of that stuff when I was in Australia.
> > > Some more on Oz beasties.
> > > http://www.usyd.edu.au/su/anaes/spiders.html
Greetings
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From: "Warren Shultzaberger" <carol.warren@prodigy.net>
To: "Ground Zero Games List" <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Full Thrust Ship Creator Hunt Is STILL On!!!
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:14:22 -0500
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Full Thrust Ship Creator (FB) is still no where to be found.
All the links that I have been given to lead to it are all dead.
I really want this freeware. Does anybody out there have it?
If someone has it could they PLEASE send the zipped file to me via my
personal email?
Carol.warren@prodigy.net
HOOYAH!!!!
Warren Shultzaberger
Hikuta - Easy, Fast, Effective Self-Defense!