Re: Questions regarding NAC ground units, was SG IF morale

From: "John Atkinson" <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com>

> I shout "First on Omaha" at batallion formations (or
> did when I still went to them).  I wear 2 Presidential
> Unit Citations, and three other unit awards, the last
> one earned in action in Vietnam.

... which more than excuses any lack of diplomacy in the rest of
the post.

I unreservedly apologise for causing offence, none was
intended.

And rather than doing it in private e-mail, I'm doing it
publically on the list.

>First of all, what I know about Chamberlain is that he
wouldn't have been up there if it weren't for
Brigadier General Warren[1].  

Gouverneur Kemble Warren ? What about Strong Vincent's role?
See, for example.... (quickly rummages for some *GOOD* URLs..) 
http://www.gdg.org/savior1.html

But this is starting to look like a p*ssing contest regarding
military history, and the US Civil War isn't my specialty. Nor
do I have anything to prove, just a lot to learn. 

>But that doesn't
>compare to, for instance, the 3rd Infantry Regiment

>Or 22nd Infantry, to pick a more obscure unit
>("Regulars, By God") who had a more uniformly
>distinguished Civil War record, fought in both World
>Wars (including landing at Utah Beach), and kicked
>some serious ass in Vietnam.  That's a lineage.  Not
>one damn afternoon.

At the risk of adding insult to - er- insult, may I really
and respectfully disagree. It's the "one damn afternoon"s
that people remember. Such as June 6th 1944. Or for a closer
parallel to troops demolishing attackers in a counter-attack,
August 1st 1759.

No aspersions meant on the 3rd, the 22nd, or for that matter
any other US regiment. And again, my apologies for causing offence.

BTW Your starter for 10: The 22nd's unofficial motto since Chipewa
(sp?) has been "Regulars, By God!" I've forgotten who said it.
P. Rials?. I'd even forgotten which regiment it applied to. IIRC their
official motto is "Deeds, not words", that much I do remember.