Re: Hmmm.... Was Re: OK OK I Give! (Was Powers)

Interesting, thanks for the update.  I'll certainly include them, and as

I've pointed out, North America is where the MAJORITY of the CNP's 
population will come from.  The South American Angle is mostly a ploy by
the 
NAC to drum up further support for the idea among Indians AND tweak the
tail 
of the LLAR at the same time.  The inclusion of South American tribes
will 
be minimal.

Brian

"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis
is 
of no use."

				 - S. Freud

>From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@speakeasy.net>
>Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
>To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
>Subject: Re: Hmmm.... Was Re: OK OK I Give! (Was Powers)
>Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 23:02:19 -0800
>
>Something to note in planning a "Native American" splinter group is a
>demographic shift in the Great Plains states. According to newspaper
>reports (SF Chronicle, July), the N.A. population in about 6 states is
>moving towards a majority. Farms are failing, reservations are becoming
>more self sufficient and so in 10-15 years a handful of states will
have
>an NA majority. There's your splinter group - they'll have several US
>Senators and a dozen or so Representatives in Congress in the not so
>distant future.
>
>K.H.Ranitzsch wrote:
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Brian Bilderback" <bbilderback@hotmail.com>
>>
>>>2. To really stick it to the LLAR.  Native groups in South America
are
>>>extremely oppressed, it is well-documented.	By encouraging these
groups
>>>
>>to
>>
>>>seek independence, they create a new enemy for the LLAR (The enemy of
my
>>>enemy....).
>>>
>>
>>As a statement about the real-world situation referring to ALL Native
>>American groups in present-day South Amereica, this is quite an
>>exaggeration. There are severe problems in many places, but some
white,
>>black or mixed groups suffer similarly, and elsewhere, Indios are the
>>majority ad have considerable cultural and political influence.
>>
>>In the GZG universe, you can of course make up what you like. Note 
>>however,
>>that I have done website on the LLAR.
>>http://home.t-online.de/home/kh.ranitzsch/lira/main.html
>>Here, the active contribution of Native American groups such as the
Kechua
>>and Guarani is positve and substantial.
>>
>>>We  encourage Native tribes from the LLAR (eg Miskitos, Yanomami) to
join
>>>
>>as  well."
>>
>>Ofcourse, in such a diverse universe, there is enough opportunity for
some
>>groups to settle their own worlds :-)
>>
>>>(These LLAR Indians would be used in LLAR mostly for slave labor, I'm
>>>
>>guessing).
>>
>>A pretty wild guess - do I detect some anti-Latino bias here ? -
Slavery 
>>has
>>been outlawed in Latin America, like everywhere else, since the 19th
>>century. Harsh labour conditions do exist in places, admittedly.
Whether
>>economic progress in the future will eliminate these is anyone's
guess, 
>>but
>>it is the (optimistic) assumption I made in my website.
>>
>>Greetings
>>Karl Heinz
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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