[FT] Full Thrust-based WW2 Naval
From: "NeoMatrix" <neomatrix@b...>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:39:35 +0100
Subject: [FT] Full Thrust-based WW2 Naval
Someone out there was developing these... Any progress ?
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Subject: Re: FT-Torpedo fighters
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----- Original Message -----
From: NeoMatrix <neomatrix@btinternet.com>
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Subject: Re: FT-Torpedo fighters
>
> >We could also have a light missile,
> >same range as above, but only 1 to 3 points of dammage (1D6 -3,
positive
> >number is a hit and the dammage done), but 2 missiles per fighter.
>
>
> Why not use the dice as rolled 1,2 & 3 count - ignore 4,5 & 6 results.
No
> figuring
>
> :Den
>
>
Same effect, use which ever you want. Just put up the 1D6-3 for the
number
nit pickers (because if I didn`t, someone would point it out <G>).
BIF
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From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <s_schoon@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: FT-Torpedo fighters
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>Came from remembering the WDA/WotW discusion, where someone said "50%
>increase in range equals x2 mass" (I THINK). I used 50% increase in
range
>and 50% dammage, plus chance of PDS intercept. The idea for these
missiles
>is to engauge outside the PDS of your target. Doesn`t help against ADFC
or
>AFHAWK though <G>.
The 50% rule may hold true for ship borne weapons, but fighters are a
whole different ball of wax.
By engaging outside the PDS envelope, you make it impossible for the
ship to strike the fighters, regardless of ADFC. You can defend using
that system, but it still allows the fighters to attack with complete
impunity.
That is why, as written, the long range torpedo will never balance.
Schoon
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From: "Robertson, Brendan" <Brendan.Robertson@dva.gov.au>
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Subject: RE: FT-Torpedo fighters
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:17 AM, Bif Smith
[SMTP:bif@bifsmith.fsnet.co.uk] wrote:
> This has given me a idea. How about for torpedo fighters, giving them
a
> selection of missiles to chose from. We have the standard heavy
missile,
> with a range of only 6 MU, requiring the fighter to enter the PDS
envelope
> of the target, but with 4 to 6 dammage. We could also have a light
missile,
> same range as above, but only 1 to 3 points of damage (1D6 -3,
positive
> number is a hit and the dammage done), but 2 missiles per fighter.
You may be reading the fighter torpedo rules wrong from your description
here.
Torpedo fighters roll to hit on a 4+ and then roll 1d6 damage for each
fighter that hits (for an average of 1.75 damage per fighter).
'Neath Southern Skies - http://home.pacific.net.au/~southernskies/
[sstrike] Raider Fleet of War Leader Kel'em'all
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>You may be reading the fighter torpedo rules wrong from your
description
>here.
>Torpedo fighters roll to hit on a 4+ and then roll 1d6 damage for each
>fighter that hits (for an average of 1.75 damage per fighter).
FB2(p4) has roll 1d6 4= 4hits, 5=5 hits, 6 = 6 Hits
:D
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Subject: [DS] What's the good word?
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An old wargaming buddy and I were chatting about Dirtside the other day
and he inquired what was happening with the scenario book, Bugs Don't
Surf. I told him I'd have to ask the list to find out. Any news?
IIRC I heard mention on list that DS was now out of print, a sad thing.
Are there plans for a new version, or anything?
Thanks for keeping me in the know.
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From: Roger Books <books@mail.state.fl.us>
Subject: Re: [DS] What's the good word?
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On 19-Sep-01 at 01:19, Aron B Clark (aronbc@juno.com) wrote:
>
> IIRC I heard mention on list that DS was now out of print, a sad
thing.
> Are there plans for a new version, or anything?
>
If it's out of print nobody told Geohex. My copy arrived yesterday
along with some hovertanks and and a few APC's. I would normally
say it is a bit pricey but they really do a quality print job.
Looking at my APC's, when does a vehicle cease to be an APC and
become a MICV?
Roger
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Subject: Re: [DS] What's the good word?
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At 08:16 19/09/01 -0400, Roger wrote:
>Looking at my APC's, when does a vehicle cease to be an APC and
>become a MICV?
When the APC is expected to 'fight' not just transport troops around :)
But
the line blurs a bit. It depends more on doctrine rather than equipment.
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Roger Books wrote:
>
> On 19-Sep-01 at 01:19, Aron B Clark (aronbc@juno.com) wrote:
> >
> > IIRC I heard mention on list that DS was now out of print, a sad
thing.
> > Are there plans for a new version, or anything?
> >
>
> If it's out of print nobody told Geohex. My copy arrived yesterday
> along with some hovertanks and and a few APC's. I would normally
> say it is a bit pricey but they really do a quality print job.
>
> Looking at my APC's, when does a vehicle cease to be an APC and
> become a MICV?
In terms of current day vehicles :
1) Armament. APCs - M113, FV432, BTR-60/70, VAB, Saxon etc - generally
have MGs of one calibre or another, whereas MICVs - M2/3, BMP, Warrior,
Marder - have cannon plus optionally missiles.
2) Passengers. APCs usually carry more passengers, MICVs give load space
over to weapons and ammo.
3) Fighting capability. MICVs often have firing ports allowing the
infantry to fight from under cover, in APCs they have to fire from the
roof hatches if at all.
In addition, all the vehicles that I know are classified as MICVs are
tracked, APCs can be wheeled or tracked.
As always, there are exceptions to these rules - the Swedish PBV-302 has
a 20mm cannon but would probably as an APC (Oerjan ?).
Tony
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