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RE: [FT] UNSC (emotional rant), etc etc etc...

From: adrian.johnson@s...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:39:17 -0500
Subject: RE: [FT] UNSC (emotional rant), etc etc etc...

<snip>

>    Taxation is state-sponsored robbery, pure and simple.  How is it
that
>when your average theif threatens my person for my property, its a
felony?
>Yet, when the state does much the same, then it's a "social
responsibility"
>that I must pay or face imprisonment or worse?
>
>>Nobody likes them, but they really are necessary.
>
>    If you want government and the appearent benefits that come with
them
>sooooo badly, then you pay for it.  The rest of us, who realize that no
form
>government is neither capable nor willing to protect the freedom of the
>population they claim to rule, can do without.
>

<snip>

>   ...and screw property rights of the ones who are un-willing to pay,
>hmmmm?

<and more and more snip>

Well.

One could go on about the fact that governments didn't spontaneously
generate... they were created by people for good reason, and we
(collectively, if not individually) choose to keep them there.

One could say that by choosing to live in a state that has taxation, you
buy into that social contract.	If you don't like it, get out.

One could say that the benefits of government are clearly demonstrated
by
the fact that we don't live in caves, we have lightbulbs, etc.	The
benefits of no-government are quite clearly demonstrated by certain
portions of our world in recent history.  Say, mid-1990's Somalia.
Mogadishu.  Rule of the gun.  Great place to live...

One could say that property "rights" are a purely human construct, and
that
without the structure of government there are no such things as rights,
particularly specific ones like "property rights," at all.  Things like
the
mythical "right to life" - does the poor bloke drowning in the middle of
the ocean have a "right to life?"  Phooey.  Rights are only "real" if
you
have the ability to defend them and if other people collectively agree
that
they exist.  And that comes from either a gun (or stick, or rock, or
pitchfork, or whatever), or a governmental structure with laws of some
kind
- a group of people all agreeing to buy into the same idea.  And the
latter
is the only one that has been even vaguely fair throughout *all* of
recorded history.  Rights don't exist in and of themselves.

One could go on, and on, about all this and argue political and moral
philosophy 'til the end of days, but when it comes right down to it,
this
discussion is now becoming really, really silly.

Adrian


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