Re: ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice
From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:59:37 +1100
Subject: Re: ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice
G'day Tom,
So long as you're patient and careful the one speed kind works just
fine.
Derek has had no major disasters as yet, the biggest problem being the
fine
drill bits breaking.. hence the need for patience and careful attention
to
what you're doing. A variable speed one would probably save you much
hassle, but its not absolutely necessary.
Cheers
Beth - who hopes you appreciate how hard it is for me to politely
discuss
"Derek's tool" given the imagination of the guys on this list! I took me
5
attempts to find an opening line that wasn't as damaging as "Derek's got
a
one speed tool and it works just fine"... ;)
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From: Mark Reindl <mreindl@pacbell.net>
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"Barclay, Tom" wrote:
> I'm sure some of you must use dremel tools or their equivalents with
set and
> with variable speed capabilities. How do you find them to work lead,
white
> metal and resin models? If you use the one-speed model, do you find
you
> damage bits due to the high speed or damage the material you are
working on?
Tom,
I have a Dremel with a variable control on it (model 395) that runs from
5-3000
0
RPM, and have found it to work well for all of my needs, although the
speed
settings are not as accurate as they could be. Dremel does put out a
model wit
h
a digital readout, and I'd suggest that you might want to invest in one
of thos
e
rather than a foot pedal setup, since the readout is right on the back
of the
tool. It's what I'd have bought if they'd been available when I got
mine. I'v
e
used mine to good effect with all sorts of materials, although I've
found that
for plastics, I prefer using a knife and a file set (except for
drilling) due t
o
the fact that the Dremel tends to melt the plastic or at least leave
deep
grooves when I'm attempting to grind something down. Lower speeds are
better
for the softer materials, and the digital Dremel allows for lower speeds
than
even mine does, which is a good thing. I've chewed up quite a few bits
in my
time, but they tend to be pretty cheap costwise anyway. As for damaging
the
material, with the exception of the above comments on plastic, I tend to
damage
things less and less as I gain experience with the Dremel. You might
want to
consider practicing with it on some "noncritical" pieces first. :).
Best of luck
Mark
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Beth,
I am offended, and yet, strangely intrigued ;). Maybe all of us guys
should
vacate the list for a bit and allow our wives to discuss this?!?!?!
Btw, for
the record, I wasn't even thinking about anything like that until you
brought
up. Must mean that I'm slipping in my old age, or maybe that Vicodan is
finall
y
kicking in.....:)
Mark
Beth Fulton wrote:
> G'day Tom,
>
> So long as you're patient and careful the one speed kind works just
fine.
> Derek has had no major disasters as yet, the biggest problem being the
fine
> drill bits breaking.. hence the need for patience and careful
attention to
> what you're doing. A variable speed one would probably save you much
> hassle, but its not absolutely necessary.
>
> Cheers
>
> Beth - who hopes you appreciate how hard it is for me to politely
discuss
> "Derek's tool" given the imagination of the guys on this list! I took
me 5
> attempts to find an opening line that wasn't as damaging as "Derek's
got a
> one speed tool and it works just fine"... ;)
>
>
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> c/o CSIRO Division of Marine Research
> GPO Box 1538
> HOBART
> TASMANIA 7001
> AUSTRALIA
> Phone (03) 6232 5018 International +61 3 6232 5018
> Fax 03 6232 5053 International +61 3 6232 5053
>
> email: beth.fulton@marine.csiro.au
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I'd go with the vari9able speed if I were you. I've got a not-Dremel
(Ryobi) that is variable and find that you really have to use the lower
speeds for plastics--unless you want a lot of melted stuff flying
around.
The higher speeds are good for working on metal. I love all the
attachments, as it lets me work on plastic and white metal/lead and zinc
(for miniatures and conversions) as well as wood (wet navy ships and the
like).
Rob
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From: "Barclay, Tom" <tomb@bitheads.com>
To: "Gzg Digest (E-mail)" <GZG-L@csua.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 8:44 PM
Subject: ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice
> Hi all
>
> I've plumbed the list beforehand for advice on airbrushes (to be
implemented
> this Xmas). And I own a few different Xacto blades and knives and
microfiles
> and a large bastard file. I've got epoxy, plastic metal, and
cyanoacrylate.
>
> But now, I want to ask about power tools! Specifically, a rotary tool.
>
> I've been looking at Dremel tools, but the variety is bewildering. I
think,
> if I understand correctly, I probably wish to get one of the standard
> single-speed tools (basic tool runs at 30K rpm). To this, I must add
the
> variable speed control pedal which gives you a rheostat-like (I
believe)
> control of the speed between 0 and full bore. I get the impression
from
what
> I've read that if you want to work on white metal, if you are drilling
or
> cleaning with any sort of a brush you want to be running no faster
than
> 15Krpm. I also get the impression that if you want to work in Resin or
> plastic, even slower speeds must be used. Hence the variable speed
control!
>
> I'm sure some of you must use dremel tools or their equivalents with
set
and
> with variable speed capabilities. How do you find them to work lead,
white
> metal and resin models? If you use the one-speed model, do you find
you
> damage bits due to the high speed or damage the material you are
working
on?
>
>
> Your input appreciated. I'm trying to sort out my Xmas present :) and
I
want
> to get the tool best suited to modifying, cleaning, assembling, and
maybe
> scratchbuilding from various models in white metal and resin and I
guess
I'd
> better be able to do some cutting of brass tubing and rod. (I have a
> Stinger/Post style GEV jeep conversion ready to get underway as soon
as I
> acquire a tool capable of doing some major resin carving).
>
> Tomb
>
>
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>
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G'day Mark,
>I am offended,
Well I didn't mean to do that, sorry!
>Maybe all of us guys should
>vacate the list for a bit and allow
>our wives to discuss this?!?!?! Btw, for
>the record, I wasn't even thinking about
>anything like that until you brought
>up.
1) I was just getting in before one of the other smart alec's here did.
2) Just to prove sod's law I opened my mouth to forestall such comments
(equating a part of Derek near and dear to his heart with a Dremel) only
to
open a whole new can of worms re: what Dremel's may or may not be used
for!
I just can't win! ;)
>Must mean that I'm slipping in my old
>age, or maybe that Vicodan is finally
>kicking in.....:)
Just proves you're a gentleman far removed from such lowly thoughts...
obviously the same can't be said of me! ;)
Have fun and happy holidays!!!
Beth
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The almity and great errorchecker wrote <g>
>Clarification: when BIF says "plasma guns", he means FB1's pulse torps
>rather than the Starfire plasma guns. The Starfire (3rd edition) plasma
>guns are short-ranged but *extremely* nasty within that range, and also
>have a very significant anti-fighter firepower.
Oerjan Ohlson, I humbally appologise for my transgression, and thanks
for
spotting it (note to self, engage brain before typing & read what you
have
wrote).
Also, the acid would be a effective close range platform like it`s
intended
in the proposed format, the archer I would redesign with no energy
weapons,
but would the Cl.3 armed SD be a good representation of the primarry
armed
SD?.
I know this may seam irrelivant to FT, but a battlegroup of these is a
very
goood way to teach about the necessity of maneuver and fighters (using a
group of SD`s and cruisers at a ratio of 50/50, equal in numbers to the
total enemy numbers of ships (i.e.-you just cannot close and slug it
out)).
I would start with the bug ships having no adfcon`s or er sml rounds,
and
introduce them one at a time as the players get better at engaging the
bugs.
The first time they get fighters close to a catterphact CLE with adfcon,
it
IS a big suprise (note to other gamers out there, If your opponent
starts
flying 61 mass cruisers that stay close to his cappitol ships, keep
fighters
away and destroy it with energy weapons first. The caterphract CLE is a
fighter killer in any game, but a sitting duck for starships (except the
FSE)).
BIF
"yorkshire born,yorkshire bred,
strong in arms, thick in head"