Re: [FT] FTSR alterations

bif smith wrote:

>I`m thinking of altering some submisions to the ftsr, and want to ask
>for opinons about this SD design?
> 
>ACID SD
> 
>Replace the plasma guns with all (6 arc) pulsers, limited to close
>range only.

Clarification: when BIF says "plasma guns", he means FB1's pulse torps
rather than the Starfire plasma guns. The Starfire (3rd edition) plasma
guns are short-ranged but *extremely* nasty within that range, and also
have a very significant anti-fighter firepower.

>8x3 arc plasma guns (torps), mass=48, cost=144
>12x6*arc Cl.1 range pulsers, mass=48, cost=???

240 pts.

>I`m asking for opinons about using plusers with only Cl.1 range (not
>tuneable), and in the novels, the weapons were not very effective
>against fighters, so if using the PDS rules for Cl.1 bats as a god
>analogy, what cost would be reasonable?

The novel in question being Weber/White's "In Death Ground".

In the novel, the Pg2 (2nd generation Plasma Gun, using the Starfire
notation) was quite effective indeed against fighters - in fact, if you
want "historical" anti-fighter efficiencies for the Acids (measured in
fighter kills per Mass compared to what point defence manages), each
all-arc pulser needs 2-3 PDS dice rather than just 1. Each extra PDS
die should increase the cost of the Pulser by ~1xMass.

>*I`m working from memory, and think it`s 4 mass for 6 arc. 

Correct.

>Anybody want to get close to this thing (72 die at once?).

No more than the Allies wanted to during ISW-4. "Historically" (ie. in
the novel) most Acids were destroyed by long-range fire before getting
into Pg2 range, though :-/

Regards,

Oerjan Ohlson
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These would be perfect for tactical maps. I suspect these could be 
pasted directly into the Close Combat series of WWII computer game 
(the SG2 types should like the CC series).

Or for a con, enlarge 'em and print 'em out, and place your terrain 
on the photo.

\At 3:38 PM -0500 12/17/00, Barclay, Tom wrote:
><x-charset iso-8859-1>I hear tell the US has just quietly allowed 
>one of their corps to sell 0.5m
>resolution images from satellites.
>
>As a wargamer, I'm all in favour of this. Undoubtedly, there are a
thousand
>reasons why a gov't with hi-res image-on-demand capacity might be
fearsome,
>but not much one can do about that.
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>http://www4.ncsu.edu/~pdbaylie/washmon.png
>
>The above is a link to a picture at 1m resolution. Tell me that isn't
an
>awesome way to make a realistic battle map for SG2 or DS2? Half meter
would
>be even better. If we could get shots of the typical terrain in various
>areas or urban layouts, one could use these as models for terrain in
>scenarios.

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I hear tell the US has just quietly allowed one of their corps to sell
0.5m
resolution images from satellites. 

As a wargamer, I'm all in favour of this. Undoubtedly, there are a
thousand
reasons why a gov't with hi-res image-on-demand capacity might be
fearsome,
but not much one can do about that. 

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~pdbaylie/washmon.png

The above is a link to a picture at 1m resolution. Tell me that isn't an
awesome way to make a realistic battle map for SG2 or DS2? Half meter
would
be even better. If we could get shots of the typical terrain in various
areas or urban layouts, one could use these as models for terrain in
scenarios. 

Pretty neat, in a vaguely scary way. 

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