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Re: Bridge Crew

From: Donald Hosford <Hosford.Donald@a...>
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:03:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Bridge Crew

Try a "little" program called: Team Sound.

Lets you and your buddies talk (voice) during a 3d shooter net game.
It really adds to the game play.  Perhaps Bridge Crew could use
something
like this.

Donald Hosford

Jeremy Sadler wrote:

> > After reading a little about it, it sounds like a really great game
to
> play over
> > the internet.
>
> The site mentions the possiblity to play over the net, and advises it
is
> doable because it uses TCP/IP protocol, but also says I believe that
it may
> not work and besides, it would take some of the fun out if it... it's
not a
> very visual game for crew members, and having six or so people in the
same
> room playing it is cool.
>
> When I played it they had a projector set up to show the main screen
(with
> the "viewer") on a big screen, and they were set up in a lecture hall
so the
> captain sat several seats up.. felt like a real starship. :)
>
> JS
> Jeremy Sadler
> stargrunt.com webmaster
> http://www.stargrunt.com
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Do you mean that you start onto the table doing 36?
Or is your table large enough to "run up" your speed?

Donald Hosford

Beth Fulton wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Sorry Donald it just doesn't work that way. We only play vector and
> everytime we've fiddled with using vector missiles (regardless of the
table
> we used) my dear little FSE smash the livin' daylights out of Derek's
NSL
> before he even gets into range. I start with vector 36 odd (if you
have
> speed restrictions then just sail around out of harms way until you've
got
> your speed up to something like 24-36 or more) then fire away and then
BANG
> - even though I end up under his nose, his poor old nose gets
demolished
> before he gets the opportunity to fire. Having said that we haven't
yet had
> a chance to try out the idea that you use vector missiles but the get
a
> deviation roll based on range to target from the firing ship.
>
> Cheers
>
> Beth
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Elizabeth Fulton
> c/o CSIRO Division of Marine Research
> GPO Box 1538
> HOBART
> TASMANIA 7001
> AUSTRALIA
> Phone (03) 6232 5018 International +61 3 6232 5018
> Fax 03 6232 5053 International +61 3 6232 5053
>
> email: beth.fulton@marine.csiro.au
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Subject: Re: Bridge Crew
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> Try a "little" program called: Team Sound.
> Lets you and your buddies talk (voice) during a 3d shooter net game.
> It really adds to the game play.  Perhaps Bridge Crew could use
something
> like this.

Hmm... sound interesting! The only problem is it wouldn't convey that
"bridge" feeling that Bridge Crew is really designed for (three-six
people
in the one room) and BC isn't a graphical game. Bridge stations wouldn't
see
the main viewer.

Of course, playing over the net alleviates needing to get a few people
together with machines...

Jeremy Sadler
stargrunt.com webmaster
http://www.stargrunt.com
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How about the "consol" program that every one has to use, just have a
main
viewer.

In 3d shooters, everyone has a game program that does all of the
graphics,
sound, and input.  This is tied to a server on the web that co-ordinates
all of
the info coming from the players, and feeds the results back to
everyone.
Bridge Crew done this way would be no different.  (it would be VERY
cool!)

Donald Hosford

Jeremy Sadler wrote:

> > Try a "little" program called: Team Sound.
> > Lets you and your buddies talk (voice) during a 3d shooter net game.
> > It really adds to the game play.  Perhaps Bridge Crew could use
something
> > like this.
>
> Hmm... sound interesting! The only problem is it wouldn't convey that
> "bridge" feeling that Bridge Crew is really designed for (three-six
people
> in the one room) and BC isn't a graphical game. Bridge stations
wouldn't see
> the main viewer.
>
> Of course, playing over the net alleviates needing to get a few people
> together with machines...
>
> Jeremy Sadler
> stargrunt.com webmaster
> http://www.stargrunt.com
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From: "Pat Connaughton" <patconnaughton@earthlink.net>
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> According to Canon (FT FB#1) SML can move up to 24" in their
> missile attack mode (non-vector movement). ER Salvo Missiles
> recieve an additional turn of movement? Yes?
> 
> If so, how much movement?

1 move of 36" only, not 2 moves of any description.
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From: "Noel Weer" <nsweer@ice.net>

> That sounds like a great figure for a Brin fan and someone that paints
> 25mm figs just for fun. Anyone know of where any pics could be found?

The Eureka 100 club requires orders for 100 minis before they start
designing them.
If you want one, just put down the quantity and your contact details.
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At 11:22 PM 12/10/00 +1100, you wrote:
>From: "Noel Weer" <nsweer@ice.net>
>> That sounds like a great figure for a Brin fan and someone that
paints
>> 25mm figs just for fun. Anyone know of where any pics could be found?
>
>The Eureka 100 club requires orders for 100 minis before they start
>designing them.
>If you want one, just put down the quantity and your contact details.

If you put down for 4, does that mean you'd get one of each variation?
(And does he ship to the States?  I'm kinda assuming yes....)

					Aaron
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Michael Llaneza wrote:

> The really scary thing is comparing Jon Tuffley's rules writing with,
> oh say anybody from AOG...
>
> Night and day.
>
> Although I have a certain fondness for the style of the young Steve
> Cole, say Starfire 1st ed era.
>

Starfire (I or II) has one of my favourite quotes, even if it is in the
designe
r's
notes "While a 10cm hole in an antenna array is insignificant, a 10cm
hole punc
hed
through the heart of a large computer bank distinctly impedes its
efficient
operation." (referring to datalink systems being vulnerable to primary
beams)

This is even better than SPI's (then TSR's, now OOP) Air War's
cumulo-granite c
loud
formations (about hitting terrain).

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