RE: [DS] Specialist Elements

For what it's worth...

The GMS/L i would imagine as not a suitable weapon for PA.....remember
in SG
that PA carry GMS/P and this is one of those examples where the crosover
between DS and SG isn't seemless. Someone recently proposed GMS/P stats
for
DS...I personally don't see a problem with Mike in his background
utilising
them both in the same team at relevant costs though. 

As a side note I don't think the Minimi/M249 would fit in the APSW
category
- this equates to the SAW mentioned as an integral part of the Rifle
Team
and not factored separately... the SG PA Point Fire RFAC style weapon
would
be so I don't see a problem with this being carried in PA team either...

Cheers,

Owen G

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Sarno [mailto:msarno@ptdprolog.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2000 9:21
> To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> Subject: Re: [DS] Specialist Elements
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "John M. Atkinson" wrote:
> 
> > Michael Sarno wrote:
> > >
> > >	  Is it possible to create an infantry "weapons 
> element" that has both
> > > GMS and APSW capability?	I can understand a possible problem with
> > > having both weapons in a militia or line element, but I 
> see no problem
> > > with having a powered infantry element where one figure 
> has a GMS/L and
> > > another has an APSW.  I'm figuring the point cost would 
> be the basic
> > > element cost, plus the GMS/L cost, plus the APSW cost.  
> So for a powered
> > > infantry element with GMS/L(Basic) and an APSW it would 
> be 40+20+10=70.
> > > Does this seem right?
> >
> > Nope.  It's much more than additive.  Remember, GMS/L is 
> big enough that
> > you loose your ranged infantry fire.  I wouldn't allow it, 
> full stop.  I
> > don't recall any historical example with a MMG+ AND crew-served
> > anti-armor weapon in the same 4-man team.
> 
>     Well, it's probably more like a 3-man team.  But the idea 
> really stems
> from SST.  I just remember Rico bounding around, shooting his 
> flamer and
> launching tac nukes and HE.  I figured a single PA trooper 
> could handle his
> own GMS or APSW, along with the ammo.  I just don't see PA 
> troopers in an
> element swapping ammo or acting as loader for the APSW.  The 
> "extra" guys in
> the element are probably just for security and to have an 
> extra set of sensors
> to acquire targets.  I figured, it might be nice to give an 
> APSW to one of the
> troopers in the GMS element.
> 
> >  Remember, you've got a lot of
> > heavy equipment with lots of ammo.	Speaking as someone 
> who's done my
> > share of roadmarching with 'apsw' (M-240), I wouldn't want 
> to add in the
> > burden of Dragon rounds as well.
> 
>     I thought one of the ideas of PA was that it allowed you 
> to carry that
> much more than line infantry.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> --
> Michael Sarno
> 
> To see a World in a grain of sand,
> And a Heaven in a wild flower,
> Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,
> And Eternity in an hour.
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> 
>