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Re: [FT] Who said Nova cannon's were unbalanced? bloody fighters

From: "Eli Arndt" <emu2020@h...>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:51:13 PST
Subject: Re: [FT] Who said Nova cannon's were unbalanced? bloody fighters

Just a quick opinion, but isn't it the truth, in Naval warfare, that 
fighters are deadly.  when a fighter today can seriously threaten a
I see no reason why, in the 3D environment of space (other than
arguements against space fighters in the first place) a fighter group 
shouldn't pose as much of  threat.  Besides, we all know that in the
of SF space fleet battles, the ships are always at the mercy of those
aces in whatever machines they fly.


>From: "Nathan rolfe" <>
>Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
>To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
>Subject: Re: [FT] Who said Nova cannon's were unbalanced? bloody
>Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:02:06 PST
>>From: Beth Fulton <>
>>Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
>>To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
>>Subject: [FT] Who said Nova cannon's were unbalanced?
>>Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 09:15:48 +1000
>>G'day guys,
>>I'm in the mood for a good argu... err discussion <g> and so I've
>>to ask a question that's been bugging me for ages. Why do you guys
>>the wave gun and nova cannon are unbalanced (as evidenced by the
>>to the initial UNSC SDN design)? Under the FB designs they're no super
>>weapon, they're regularly used down here and I've only seen them do
>>devastating damage once and that was because the target got cocky (my
>>had the wave gun ship fully charged, but his opponent was so sure he'd

>>it out through damage causing threshold checks he ended his fleet 2 "
>>straight in front in a nice big line and then rolled a lot of 1s and
>>much to his horror). Given the fact you can't fire any other weapon
>>that turn either then you may as well use large beams/p-torps (or if
>>EFSB stuff as well, heavy beams) as you'll more often than not do more
>>damage that way. The rules for theses two "big" guns were written
>>when ships were a lot smaller, now we regularly see ships hit the
>>with masses >100. I'd even go so far to suggest that to make them
>>(and to give them back some of their reputation) under FB I'd double
>>radii of effect or give them twice the dice, I'd also drop the
>>that says Nova Cannons can only be carried by capitals (though that's
>>to do with balance and more to do with the fact I don't see it as an
>>important distinction anymore).
>>Any way there's a few cents worth to rattle a few cages... been
>>too quiet around here for my liking anyway ;)
>>Have fun
>I would have to agree from my experience the nova and wave cannons have
>proven to be a very unreliable weapon. At the moment the current "super
>weapons" are missiles and fighters which at the moment are being taken
>the extreme in our current gamming group, For example some people are
>turning up with corvettes with fragile hulls no weapons PDS and
mounting a
>single missile rack, and another good one is a mass 50 odd ship with 
>hull and thrust two with 4 fighter bays. I will admit that fighters are
>part of the game and add to it but when you play a 4000 point game and
>attack fighters come at you and destroy 3 battle ships in a turn and
>game is over before any ship to ship combat takes place. I think the
>idea of full  thrust is ship to ship and trying to out manoeuvre your
>opponent. But when your opponent says this counter shows where all 26
>fighter groups are i get a little annoyed. That's all i will say for
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