Fate of the 'ld USA wasRe: [FT]USA in Full Thrust...

--- Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com> wrote:
> 
> ----------
> > Från: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@acd.net>
> > Till: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> > Ämne: Re: [FT]USA in Full Thrust...
> > Datum:  den 16 april 1999 09:01
> > 
> > Oerjan Ohlson wrote:
> > 
> > > Donald Hosford wrote:
> > >
> > > Hm. Strange file format - or, rather, the file
> wants to be opened
> by
> > > ALIFE.EXE (which it claims is "required to read
> this type of .ASC
> > > files", which is obviously wrong since Wordpad
> works just as well
> :-/ )
> > >
> > 
> > Sorry that I can't help you there...does the
> ALIFE.EXE program have a
> way
> > to tell it not to do that?	(ie: tell it to stop
> monitoring for that
> file
> > format?)
> > 
> > >
> > > > This file is my take on the United States. 
> (They secretly build
> > > > starships, and leave the solar system in 2053.
>  They later return
> in
> > > > 2188.)
> > >
> > > Well...
> > >
> > > The comment about "I can't see how the NAC would
> say no" to ceding
> the
> > > USA is... strange, to say the least.
> > >
> > > Put it like this: How would the current US
> government react if,
> during
> > > WWII, all of a sudden the (well-armed and
> numerous) descendants of
> > > Sitting Bull turned up out of nowhere and
> demanded that all the
> Plains
> > > states be immediately turned over to them, or
> else...? The
> situation is
> > > a very close analogue to your storyline.
> 
> > Well I did say that it seemed unlikely that the
> Americans would
> remain 
> > that mad for 135 years...
> 
> *That* part I don't have any problem with at all -
> not when the purpose
> of the original exodus was to come back and get
> even. I wouldn't be the
> least surprised if the neo-American children were
> imprinted with that
> purpose at a very early age, much like you are
> taught to honour the US
> flag now... National myths and hatreds can be very
> long-lived indeed,
> and not only in the Balkans... 
> 
> The part in the neo-American timeline about
> "traitors getting what they
> deserve" (not verbatim), concerning those mainland
> Americans who
> cooperated with the UK/Canadian forces, sounds quite
> a lot like Serb
> slogans (or the propaganda/threats of any other
> totalitarian state or
> terrorist organisation of your choice) and (in my
> eyes) reinforces the
> impression of the neo-Americans as being rather
> fanatic (and capable of
> coming up with an ultimatum like that).
> 
> > Besides, the various earth nations have been
> fighting the Kra'Vak for
> the
> > last 4-5 years, and they are slowly losing
> ground....
> 
> Compare this to a Neo-Indian ultimatum some time
> between Pearl Harbour
> and Midway. Not that big a difference in the overall
> situation, except
> that the KV are still only on the fringes whereas
> the Nazis had overrun
> most of Europe (corresponding to a large portion of
> the Core Worlds in
> the Tuffleyverse). Which situation is worse?
> 
> The NAC also have the British tradition of not
> losing wars no matter
> the odds. Napoleon and Hitler both conquered most of
> Europe, but in
> both cases Britain hung on and emerged victorious -
> with help from
> others, certainly, but the NAC isn't completely
> without allies either.
> In recent years Britain went to war (and a rather
> expensive war, at
> that) to reconquer a few small islands which had
> been invaded (economic
> value virtually nil, political value not much
> bigger, symbolic value
> huge...). With a mindset like that, it is very
> unlikely that they'd
> fold up easily.
> 
> So, if the neo-Americans made the ultimatum and
> didn't back down from
> it, there'd certainly be war. The biggest question
> is what the
> Americans still living on the North American
> continent would think
> about it all :-/
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Oerjan Ohlson
> oerjan.ohlson@telia.com
> 
> "Life is like a sewer.
>   What you get out of it, depends on what you put
> into it."
> - Hen3ry
> 
> 

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