Re: [OT] Re: Tired of the stupid comments about SST...
From: ScottSaylo@a...
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:15:28 EST
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Tired of the stupid comments about SST...
In a message dated 3/8/99 2:12:17 PM EST, ajohnson@idirect.com writes:
<< The only semi-coherent explaination I can think of is that the
>scriptwriters/producers/etc were working on the Russian model: lots
and
>lots of mediocre infantry, and ignore casualties.
>
>They left out the rest of the Russian Equation, though: lots and lots
of
>artillery and armour...Given the rest of the movie's tactical
sillyness -
>napalm-armed tac fighters coming out to play ONCE; no AFVs, no fire
>support, etc etc, I think we can just file SST under "Horrible Movies
That
>Shouldn't Have Been Made". It's got a lot of company in that
category...
How 'bout another explanation: He was joking. Like the scene when the
platoon of MI are rounding up bug warriors with their guns and shooting
them IN A CIRCLE. Ricochets and misses would have done damage to the
humans *for sure* if there was one dose of reality in what they were
doing... The entire combat methodology of the MI was supposed to be a
joke - part of the satire. You're looking for logic and common sense
where
it wasn't supposed to be...
Personally, I don't think Verhoven was very *successful* with what he
was
trying to do, 'cause there was too much happening trying to be an
action
adventure sci-fi kill-the-bugs movie (ah-la Aliens). That would be the
influence of the Producer$ and $tudio, I guess. Don't get me wrong,
I'm
not trying to justify the film - I agree with what you said before: it
failed as BOTH an action-adventure-sci-fi-shoot-em-up and as political
satire. Satire for the brain dead maybe.
But don't judge it on it's military merits - it wasn't meant to be a
sound
military flick. There was a *lot* of military improbability in Aliens
too
(APC's with no ground clearance, Starships for a single squad, etc etc)
but
it was a GREAT film.
>>
Yeah, but this one wasn't. I think your concept of the satirical nature
of
scene was way over Verhoven's head too. Did he mean to do that, I doubt
it;
because it would never have occured to him. (It was pretty much a
stretch for
you or me, wasn't it)?