Re: hello Starfire...

  I stopped playing because the ships and then the fleets all started
looking the
same.
No matter how I designed my ships, they came out looking like all the
others.  I
think that system didn't have enough diversity.

  After that, I started experimenting with my own systems, until I found
Full
Thrust.
I also rebelled at the prices being charged for the Version 3 of 
Starfire
Empires.  I did buy the Stars at war supplement.  Lots of scenarios, and
their
official history is much better.

Donald Hosford

DracSpy@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 99-02-04 13:58:29 EST, you write:
>
> << But of course! Welcome here, BTW - it seems more and more of the
Starfire
>  list drifts over here too <g>  >>
> The reson for that, I think, is that Starfire started out like full
thrust,
> but then it got more compicated (I'm seeing this in Fleetbook, altho I
could
> not put my finger on why I did not like using those rules at first I
think
> that this is why, it is not about a game being simple it is about
being able
> to play a game with out looking at a rule book to fire a class-3) and
the
> people who liked the game for its elegance looked else ware and found
the best
> starship combat game ever:  Full Thrust.
> You might also want to check out Starmada
> -Stephen