Re: [SG] Scenario with engineers

In a message dated 98-12-02 08:23:47 EST, you write:

<< > Your forgetting that a Division also has more than 3 line brigades.
The
 > engineers are also assisting the division support command (at least a
brigade
 > sized outfit) and the divisions organic assets (aviation, signal,
etc).
Don't
 > forget division HQ. You wouldn't want the division staff to build
their own
 > defenses, would you?<

I forgot to mention Divarty. Wouldn't want to leave out the redlegs.
 
 >Hrm. . . that nonsense should be taken care of by the batallion that
 gets attached from Corps assets (in normal wartime situation--in
 peacetime exercises, usually doesn't, so. . . ).  If your 12Bs are
 digging holes, they are being misused.  That's what all those SEEs up
in
 the BN HHC are for, dammit.  And the 82nd has a whole independant heavy
 junk company ("The Nasty") for that also.<

It was amazing how much vehicular crap there was to dig at a "light"
division
HQ. The army has always used handy engineer assets to dig in quickly. 
Division 12s had some type of spade vehicle that was usually commited to
building and tearing down dirt obstacles on roads into the AO.
Bragg also had corp level engineers and an engineer group on post. I
have no
idea what kept those guys employed.

 > The Engineers were usually just enough to for a commitee and decide
to
wander
 > off and get lost. When they were around they usually carried enough
extra
 > equipment to build rope bridges, blow away some small obstacles, etc.
 
 Wandering off is valid Engineer activity.  They're really playing
 spades.  They'll come back when chow is served.  Only MOS where playing
 spades is testable skill.  :)
 
 John M. Atkinson<