Re: [fh] nac vexilliology was Re: Awards and Anthems(and nowsomebackground) [OT] [HIST]

Laserlight wrote:

> > >so, the nac-as-a-whole symbol is the crown, and the following
things
> have
> > >the following symbols positioned under the crown:
> > >
> > >england - three lions
> leopards, technically--a lion in a specific position

Yep. The French called the English lions "leopards" as an insult, and
the
term stuck.
 
> > >scotland - lion rampant / thistle
> unicorn

Yes. The Lion Rampant is the personal arms of the Scottish king, not of
Scotland.

> > >wales - dragon
> wyvern

No way! A heraldic wyvern has only two feet, a dragon has four - and the
red dragon of Wales most certainly has four feet on all Welsh flags I've
ever seen.

> I suggest a blue field.  The crown, leopards, harp, eagle, fleur de
lys,
> globe, and anchor should be gold.  The unicorn and broad arrow should
be
> white.  The wyvern, hand, and leaf should be red, which is not in
> accordance with the rules of heraldry if displayed on a blue field. 
	
The Welsh national arms is unheraldic already - per fess argent and
vert,
a dragon gules (don't remember the correct term for the dragon's pose);
the dragon is placed squarely over the division, so half of it is on the
green.

> Perhaps instead a canton (upper left quarter) can be changed to the
> appropriate background color, e.g. for Canada white with the red leaf.

This would solve the problem with the red symbols, yes.

Regards,

Oerjan Ohlson
oerjan.ohlson@telia.com

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