Re: Space crews and solar flares. was Re: Space carrier fighter philosphyRe: ADLER TAG AAR

At 11:28 23/10/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I certainly don't disagree that a dieselboat, Ausssie driven or not,
>could potentially pull off such a feat. It's jsut not somethingthat is
>done in peacetime. Harbors channels are very narrow and relatively
>shallow basisns and it woudl be irresponsible for acaptain to attempt
>suck a feat or hold an exrcize like that especially with the heavy
>civilain traffic that uses teh Puget sound channel. (BTW somone has
>already mentioned that they heard this took place at sea and the sub
>penetrated a CV Group. That's sound more like it.

	Yep heard a couple of stories about subs getting into CV groups,
sometimes
alone and sometimes when working with surface units. 

>>>>>
>I don't know about cashiering. Somone who can penetrate a harbour like
>that could be invaluable in war. He would deffinately get a big rap
over
>
>the nuckles and some sure time. Our navy could not afford to lose
>someone
>like that.
><<<
>Hopefully the RAN is a bit less beuracratic (sp?) than the US NAVY with
>such matters of irresponsibiliy. I mean a B52 pilot that could fly
>underneath the Veranzano Bridge in New York City and then BUZZ Kennedy
>International without getting on radar would be very skilled and
>competent, but that still wouldn't save him from being cashiered for
the
>stunt.
>
>Los
>
	I know what you mean but it seems to me to be more a case of how
many
civilians knew and were put at risk. Anyway.....
	The only people running ships that run aground or into wharfs in
Sydney
harbour have been ferry captains and the RANs own. That deffinately gets
you a shore posting for life. Also a couple of years ago 2 submariners
were
lost at sea when their sub dived without them (they were working as
ordered
in the base of the conning tower). As I understand things no one has
been
cashiered altough the officers involved were all repremanded and the
captain lost his command. Also early in the year there was a major fire
on
one of our replenishment ships killing 4 crew. The inqury has finished
but
I have not kept up t date with whats happening over that. Overall I'm
pretty cynical about the Services here sacking anyone.

	Tony.
	twilko@ozemail.com.au