Re: [OT?] Indigenous insurgencies

I stand corrected.  I was just objecting to the fact that the two
'insurgencies' being quoted were cases of revolutionary movements taking
control against a background of political and military chaos, rather
than from a stable government or an army of occupation.

Glover, Owen wrote:
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Jarrard [mailto:jjarrard@ford.com]
> Subject: Re: [OT?] Indigenous insurgencies
> 
> >Lots of revolutions, coups, and such succeed when a government has
> >failed to satisfy 'enough of the right people' (to massively
paraphrase
> >Machiavelli).  I think the point is that minority-inspired guerilla
> >movements have seldom managed to achieve more than banditry without
> >outside support.
> 
> Yes, but the original discussion isn't about a minority-inspired
geurilla
> war. We are talking about a population resisting the occupying forces
(not
> unlike France or the Balkans in WWII?). The 'Resistance' movement will
> likely include regular forces that have escaped the invaders 'net' and
are
> working with the general populace.
> 
> It is difficult to draw parrallels (not impossible just difficult)
with
> earth history as we've never seen anything on the sort of scale we are
> talking about fighting in the late 22ndC. The forces on planet are not
an
> independant world; "the NAC planet of Kent is invaded by ESU naval and
army
> forces, for the next 12 months the population fights a geurilla style
war
> until a joint NAC/NSL flotilla are able to defeat the ESU Garrison
Fleet. In
> a co-ordinated effort the ESU ground forces are swiftly forced into
> submission". So the external support you are talking about may need to
be
> redifined. Does an onplanet NAC resistance movement receiving
information
> from an offplanet NAC intelligence agency count as external support?
> 
> And please don't forget that Geurilla Warfare is NOT necessarily
Insurgency
> Warfare - have a look at the definitions. Geurilla Warfare is just a
method
> of fighting the enemy. Historically proven as a very effective method
for a
> numerically inferior force to fight.
> 
> Owen G