RE: A question of Suppression

	Well, so far I don't think we need to.	I can't remember offhand
if there 
are spotting penalties for a buttoned vehicle or not.  There probably 
should be.  Mk1 Eyeball with a full range of view is a great thing, and 
backed up by good sensors, it's even better.  But buttoned up still 
restricts somewhat.  The only vehicle house rules I'm working on are a 
'Travel' mode, to give some of the 'all-out sprint' ability that was 
discussed earlier.  So far it seems to work - they can move a long way,
but 
are pretty vulnerable and restricted.
	BTW, the First Time Suppressed result seems to be accurate.  A
good 
anecdotal book on tank tactics in Vietnam is 'Tank Sergeant', by Ralph 
Zumbro.  Seems that they took small arms fire a lot, and would regularly

'scratch each other's backs'; spray their coax MGs at each other to
clear 
off enemy infantry.  When the small arms first opened up in a battle,
they 
would be nervous, expecting the RPGs to come any second.  After a few 
minutes, it wasn't a big deal, because the enemy would have used them 
immediately if they had them.  This was, however, very lightly or 
un-escorted tanks fighting irregular light infantry.  But it's a good
read.

Noah

-----Original Message-----
From:	Glover, Owen [SMTP:oglover@mov.vic.gov.au]
Sent:	Thursday, August 06, 1998 06:15 PM
To:	'FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk'
Subject:	RE: A question of Suppression

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Kett [mailto:gkett@adan.kingston.net]
Subject: RE: A question of Suppression

>I think that small arms fire on a armoured vehicle still has the
potential
>to suppres by affecting the crews morale. Concentrated fire by small
arms
>could signal the possibility

Well I think that there already some of that reflected in the Confidence
Checks "First Time Suppressed".

So are we going to come up with another 'House Rule' to deal with extra
effects of suppression on Vehicles?

Owen G