Re: What about the UN? - Longish

Nyrath the nearly wise wrote:

...Snip...JTL
> R		 ^	       A: Max Stirner, Ayn Rand
> a +2		 |	       B: Various Libertarians
> t	  A	 |     E       C: Welfare Liberals
> i +1		 |   D	       D: Socialists
> o	       B | C	       E: Communists
> n  0<----------+--------->   F: Classical Anarchists
> a		 | H	       G: American "counter culture"
> l -1	   G	 |   I	       H: Various Conservatives
> i		 |     J       I: Fascists
> s -2	  F	 |	       J: Nazis
> m		 v
>	-2  -1	 0  +1	+2
>	      Statism
> 
> VARIABLE ONE: "Statism"
> This is the attitude towards the State. Is the government
> an object of idolatry, a postitive good, a necessary evil,
> or unmitigated evil?
> Put this on the X axis, with umitigated evil at -2,
> and object of idolatry at +2.
> (Anarchists would be at -2. Reactionary monarchists would
> be at +2. American political parties would cluster around
> 0. Both Communists and Fascists are from +1 to +2.
> Both American Conservatism and US Welfare Liberalism
> are from 0 to +1. Don't be fooled into thinking that
> Conservatives are anti-statits, they may want to dismantle
> the Dept of Health, Education, and Welfare, but they
> would strengthen the police and army.
> Ideological libertarians are from -2 to 0)
> 
> VARIABLE TWO: "Rationalism"
> This is the attitude towards planned social progress.
> It maps the belief that society has "problems" and
> these can be "solved".
> Put this on the Y axis, with "all social problems
> have findable solutions" at +2, and with
> "problems, what problems?" at -2.
> (Fascism is at about -1, since they appeal to
> "the greatness of the nation" or volk, and to
> the fuhrer-prinzip. Communism belongs up around
> +2, since they have all the answers to social ills.
> Welfare liberals are from +1 to +2 ("all crime
> is caused by poverty thus when we end poverty
> we'll end crime...")
>
...snip...JTL

     Thank you for the information, I did perhaps oversimplify 
a bit.	 But the thought was in the right place!
Bye for now,
(Dinner is ready)
John L.