Re: Starship Troopers: I've got a wonderful Grinchy Idea...

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Geo-Hex wrote:

> > To: 	   "Mark A. Siefert" <cthulhu@csd.uwm.edu>
> > Cc: 	   Full Thrust Mailing List <FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk>
> > Subject:	   Re: Starship Troopers: I've got a wonderful Grinchy
Idea....
> > Date:	   Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:23:07 -0500
> > From:	   Andy Cowell <cowell@user.icx.net>
> > Reply-to:	   FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
> 
> > In message <346938C1.9F570DE5@csd.uwm.edu>, "Mark A. Siefert"
writes:
> > > 
> > >	When we started talking about scenarios, I hit them with an idea
that
> > > they really would like:  Capturing the Brain Bug.  This scenario
is
> > 
> > On gaming SST, didn't the whole compound scene seem very "Zulu" to
anyone
> > else?
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Andrew E. B. Cowell <cowell@icx.net>
> > Systems Administrator, Internet Design Group, Inc.
> > http://www.internet-design.com/
> > http://www.icx.net/
> > 
> What I want to know is why send youngsters to die armed with weapons 
> that obviously had little effect on the bugs.  And hadn't anyone 
> given any thought to a proper perimeter defense (claymores would have 
> been extremely effective it seems to me!!)  - the director and 
> the producers obviously avoided having any military personnel as 
> advisors - didn't want to sully their "vision" of the project!!
> 
> KR 
> 
No kidding - no area effect weapons, no vehicles, no claymores, no
regular
grenades, no tactics whatsoever...

Apparently (this on a website I saw a couple days ago) there was a
military advisor connected with the film...he was either some
rear-echelon
non-combatant or (more likely) he was ignored in favor of the director's
'vision'.

OTOH, very cool sets & models...I want someone to get the rights to make
a 'Rodger Young' class ship for FT so I can buy some...the scene where
the
ship deploys its dropships on 'outriggers' prior to drop is cool - and
the
ships are really cool generally - although fleet tactics, like ground
tactics, really suck.

The micro-nukes are silly, as used in the movie. In the book, the MI can
fire nukes with gay abandon because they have fully-sealed,
self-contained
suits and so don't have to breath rads...the movie troopers, in addition
to having no tactical training and lousy weaponry for the job, must have
to worry about rad-sickness as well...no filter masks...the operant
(sp?)
phrase for this whole movie really is Poor Bloody Infantry...

OK, enough ST bashing...resolved that the movie was a bad movie with
some
cool sets and cool aliens, and little else...just wait for another few
weeks until Alien 4:Resurrection comes out.

(I saw Aliens on tv the night before I saw ST - it made ST look even
worse) 

(Has anyone ever produced SG2 stats for that weapon Ripley takes into
the
atmosphere plant? The assault rifle + grenade launcher + flamer combo? I
want some for my SG2 squads! And what about that industrial exoskeleton
thing she wrestles the queen in? Any models in 15mm/25mm/6mm?)

Later, (before I get even farther off topic!)

Brian (burger00@camosun.bc.ca)