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RE: Re : Chits

From: "Glover, Owen" <oglover@m...>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 04:46:22 -0400
Subject: RE: Re : Chits

Mind you, the argument about initiative of the Private Soldier is not
relevant to the game of SGII as such since we look at the Leadership
values of the LEADER. All discussions about various armies, parade
ground drill, battle drills etc are nice to follow but that's about all.

How much iinitiative an individual soldier may display/lack is not
addressed in SGII; the lowest level manouvre unit is the squad (Okay
exceptions for snipers, etc). Writing in rules to reflect personal
initiative is more in the realm of the Skirmish game, Quineg?

Owen Glover

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> From: 	Mikko Kurki-Suonio[SMTP:maxxon@swob.dna.fi]
> Sent: 	Monday, 23 June 1997 15:45
> To:	FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
> Subject:	Re: Re : Chits
> 
> On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Jon Holloway wrote:
> 
> >	 Marines. Any professional soldier will tell you they are
> trained to 
> >	 think AND obey lawful orders. 
> 
> So, what do you do when those two conflict?
> 
> That's right, obey the orders. No reasoning, no backtalk, just obey or
> 
> face court martial.
> 
> Obedience is of primary importance. Initiative is a nice plus for 
> situations when there's no one around to order you (which gets more 
> common in the higher ranks, true).   
>    
> Part of military training is designed to break down initiative, e.g. 
> parade drills, systematic humialiation, senseless tasks.
> 
> It may get better as time goes by, but basic training is very much 
> centered on showing the recruit his place in the system and killing
> any 
> initiative or free thought -- and with that in conscript armies like 
> ours, dies the professional expertise the recruit had in civilian
> life.
> 
> And please don't tell me you've never had an idiot for a superior
> officer.
> 
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