Re: GZG 25mm Series in 1/300

I whole heartedly agree with Nag's suggestion about doing SGII in 15mm. 
I've been playing it with Quality Castings 15mm WWII figures
(Germans/Brits) and using Terrain Maker for the layout.  Boy does it
make
a difference.  You can do some pretty large engagements and it just
Feels
right.	I do own some GZG 25mm NAC and NSL and like the figures very
much
(though I think that they are a little stiff).	I have played with them
(25mm) on a 4x6 and was did have flashbacks to old WH40K, this is not a
good thing!  I really think that SG II is a squad level game, not a true
skirmish level game. Because of this it is not all that important to
have
big and beautiful figures on the battlefield; because in SGII as in war
men get killed all to easily.  

BTW SGII works really well for WWII combat.  The only problem is the
squads are much bigger, especialy for the Americans.  But it still works
well.  

Also I would like to ring in against a new version of FT.  In a gaming
industry where companies think that game support means changing the
rules
on you every year or so, instead of futhering thier storylines or adding
background, GZG with FT/DSII and now SGII has been a welcome change.  I
would hate to see FT end up like so many other games.  That said, I
would
like to see more game support in general, a sourcebook with more Fleets,
for FT and maybe some errata to fix the qurky parts or FT.   I would
also
like to see  more unit organizations and offical vehical stats or DSII. 
As for SGII I would like to see greater unit detail, and more senario
seeds.	If Jon and GZG would concentrate on these areas I believe that
that the family of GZG games would find many new converts.  To
illustrate
this I will paraphrase one of my friends after a SGII game.  We had 8
people playing, each with a squad or two. We were also playing NSL vs
NAC.
	He said, "Y'know I really like this game, much more realistic
than
WH40K." 
	I said, "I know."
	He said, as he leafed through the rules," Is this all the
organizations,
is it going to be supported?" 
	I said, "I believe so."   
	He said, " Well I'll wait to see before I order one."

Later,
Jnoll
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> From: Naggaroth@aol.com
> To: FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: GZG 25mm Series in 1/300
> Date: Tuesday, December 10, 1996 4:20 AM
> 
> This subject heading should be switched to "We want 15mm SGII figs!"
> 
> When I'm playing SGII on my 4'x6' table, I feel as though the game is
missing
> a key element:  maneuver.  The units of troopers get suppressed too
easily
> and the game bogs down from there.  This makes the time delay for
battalion
> or regimental support fire ridiculous (we've never had a game last
more
than
> two turns).  Eight 25mm (or 28mm) grunts per unit on one inch bases
take
up
> alot of table space (I don't like SGII being played like 40K:  I line
up
all
> of my guys on this side vs. your lined up guys on the other side. 
This
is SF
> not ancients!)  The 15mm scale is perfect for SGII, heck, we're even
thinking
> about playing it in 6mm.  This would definitely add some distance
between
> friendly units, and make the game have a more fluid feel.
> 
> Over here in the US we don't have any descent 15mm SF stuff (yeah,
those
new
> Heavy Gear infantry are cool, but one side has regular infantry and
heavy
> weapon troopers (good) while the other side has motorcycles and
> snipers???(not so good)).
> 
> Mike and Jon:  We want 15mm!	(and no FT3, but a supplement like "A
Few
More
> Thrusts!"). :)  If Jon is busy w/ 25mm and 1/300th stuff, I would
rather
see
> the 25mm stuff take a back seat since there is enough "official" figs
out
> there to play with if you prefer that scale, but, as somebody
mentioned
> earlier, there seems to be a big gap in 15mm SF availability, and I
think
> SGII plays better in 15mm anyway.
> 
> Nag