Re: Last point

["DarkDAVE" <darkdave3000@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

and u would build those ion drive ships at the end of the space elevator
where there is a space station and little artificial gravity. These ships
should have limited fuel for conventional thrusters so do critical docking
manuvers, the ion drives can take care of the interplanetary manuvers

If we could model the Space elevator perhaps we could also model these
interplanetary transport ships! :)
how very exciting! ion drive space ship modules! make them with a nuclear
reactor!  lots of thrust and speed! :)

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "DarkDAVE" <darkdave3000@hotmail.com>
To: <orbiter@firedrake.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:26 PM
Subject: Last point


> oh yeah, Space elevator will also make the ISS obsolete, you wouldnt be
> interested in low earth orbit anymore, if you wanted to do experiments in
> zero G you just have to stop at 36000km along the elevator and build a
> station there too. There you will be in gey sync orbit.
> Space elevator would open the door way into interplanetary travel.
>
> You wouldnt need to build space ships with conventional Hydrogen/Oxygen
> rockets , but ships with ion drives. These ships would not land on any
> planets but stay in space and dock between space stations or elevators.
> Space travel would be more interesting and less booring because travel to
> other planets such as mars would take weeks intead of months. Now because
> travel is faster, there would be more preasure on the pilot to work faster
> too. As i said before, try imagining docking with a space station at the
end
> of the space elevator, it would be far from booring! you would have thrust
> your ship toward the planet to prevent your ship flying off into space
while
> matching the speed of the elevator. Remember the elevator station has a
> cable to the surface so it can fly around mars or earth faster than the
> stable orbit, your ship wont! you would have to thrust toward the planet
> while manuvering your ship toward the docking bay.
>
> Either that or dock at a sub station at geo sync section of the elevator,
> but that will require more fuel burning to slow your ship down to a stable
> geo sync orbit.
>
> ok im outa here, once again sorry for spamming. i get like this when im
> excited and want to prove a point.
>
> Dave **turns off computer**
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DarkDAVE" <darkdave3000@hotmail.com>
> To: <orbiter@firedrake.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: space elevator
>
>
> > > Indeed. To quote one of the classics of our time (hehe), "Where's the
> > > fun in that?"
> >
> > imagine this, "5,4,3,2,1,mark... " (must undock at exact count to
> > synchronise with moon trajectory as elevator spins)
> > **pilot hits undock button**
> > **space craft attached to end of space elevator detaches and the
> centrifugal
> > force slingshots it toward the moon**
> > **ship is instantaneusly hurled toward the moon at mach 15, pilot has to
> do
> > minor coarse corrections to slingshot his ship around the moon and
toward
> > mars.**
> > or perhaps the pilot has to dock with the Mar's version of the space
> > elevator waiting for him there. This might be tricky too! And yes it has
> > been proposed to build one on mars. The only obstacle is money. All the
> > research done by professionals say it's practical, dont forget we are
> > amateurs on the subject, so we should keep an open mind until we read
> proper
> > text. the yahoogroups link section  check below for a copy pasted
version.
> >
> > >
> > > Perhaps there's some practical use for it in real life, but I thought
> > > the whole point of Orbiter was to experience space flight, not to
> > > simulate pressing buttons. ;)
> >
> > Or perhaps orbiter can be used to simulate the building of the space
> > elevators, missions can be drawn up to create those future missions that
> > will be challenging such as getting into geosync orbit with a shuttle
and
> > dropping the carbon nanotube ribbons, then slowly rising toward 100,000
> kms.
> > Tho i dont know how a shutle can get to 100,000km, maybe this makes the
> > mission more challenging, perhaps the shuttle will have to rondevous
with
> a
> > fuel tank left in geo sync for it to dock with and refuel so it could
get
> to
> > 100,000kms.
> >
> >       Name Creator  Edit   Delete   Cut
> >      ETT SE
> >       A space Elevator that uses Evacuated launch and Recovery Tubes
> > buoyantly and / or aerodynamically suspended from the surface to the
edge
> of
> > space.
> >      et3dotcom
> >         CYGO Space Initiative
> >       Asteroid mining, space molding, casting, mfrng, modular
> construction,
> > interconnectable private space habitats & transport vehicles, space
> commerce
> > facilitation, space product concepts, opportunities, and R&D.
> >       http://www.cygo.com/  cygonaut
> >         Engines of Creation by Eric Drexler
> >       Drexler's book is the definite source on all things related to
> > nanotechnology. If you have a question with regard to the nanotube cable
> > this is a good place to start.
> >       http://www.foresight.org/EOC/index.html  mattmon3
> >         HighLift Systems
> >       The bottom line is that the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts
> > (NIAC) Phase I and current Phase II studies examined the entire system
in
> > detail and found a space elevator design that will work with current or
> > near-future technology, a method to deploy the ribbon, and specific
> scenario
> > for safe operation.
> >       http://www.highliftsystems.com  mattmon3
> >         How Space Elevators Work
> >       A very well put together introduction to the topic of space
> elevators.
> >       http://www.howstuffworks.com/space-elevator1.htm  mattmon3
> >         HyperPhysics
> >       This website contains a load of physics information on just about
> > every conceivable physics topics. There is also a link to HyperMath.
> >       http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hph.html#hph  mattmon3
> >         Jack and the Beanstalk
> >       This is the story of the very first Space Elevator.
> >       http://www.hiyah.com/library/beanstalk.html  mattmon3
> >         NASA's Space Elevator Concept
> >       NASA's take on the Space Elevator
> >       http://flightprojects.msfc.nasa.gov/fd02_elev.html  mattmon3
> >         The Space Elevator
> >       Report by Bradley Edwards
> >
> http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/final_report/pdf/472Edwards.pdf
> > mattmon3
> >         The Space Elevator: 'Thought Experiment' or Key to the Universe?
> >       A nice paper by Arthur C. Clarke
> >       http://www.ian-andrew.co.uk/ACCspaceE.html  mattmon3
> >         Virtual Beanstalk Project
> >       A near space elevator...
> >       http://members.aol.com/beanstalkr/project/  mattmon3
> >         Wikipedia - Space Elevator
> >       Entry in a community encyclopedia...
> >       http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Space_elevator  mattmon3
> >
> >
> > David
> >
>
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