Re: space elevator

["DarkDAVE" <darkdave3000@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

i completely agree with you, but he hasnt replied my last email i sent him
regarding this matter, so ill send him another and wait a few weeks before i
make any decisions, thanks for your feedback!

what about point number 5? u didnt comment on that, the idea of using mesh
objects to act as chunks of 3d landscapes for individual sections of the
planet sphere. Surely colision detection could be done for those objects?
given that their smaller than the planet themselves.

Regarding the space elevator, im not sure where youre coming from with your
pesimism, are you saying it's not practical to SIMULATE it in orbiter? or
are you saying it's not practical do implement it in real life?

There has been extensive research done on the space elevator, and all the
experts to my knowlege has agreed it's possible and withing man's reach.
Only thing in dispute is the time frame to build it.

here are a few links to help convince you :

http://www.highliftsystems.com/

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_021120.htm
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http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_001226.htm
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http://google.space.com/search/?q=space+elevator&site=seti-test&client=seti-
test&proxystylesheet=http%3A%2F%2F209.73.219.1002Fcss%2Fspacecom.xsl&output=
xml_no_dtd&x=11&y=11

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/space-elevator/links
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/space-elevator/?yguid=9741358

David

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Henderson" <orbiter@aibs.org.uk>
To: <orbiter@firedrake.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: space elevator


> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, DarkDAVE wrote:
>
> > 1)
> > is it possible to stream line the mfd controls by making them clickable?
so
> > u can navigate each MFD by clicking on them instead of using the SHIFT +
> > KEYS ? this would make it more user friendly.
>
> Yes, it is. The SDK has a section (12.x?) explaining how to do it. AFAIK
> few people use them as few people use the mouse at all.
>
> > 2) How the heck do you control rudder of the shuttle if your joystick
doesnt
> > have rudder controls?
>
> 1 and 3 on the num. pad (make sure you're in rotation mode).
>
> > 4) I was toying with the idea of making a space elevator object for
orbiter,
> > has anyone thot of that and would it be practical? as u know NASA has
got
> > plans to build a 100,000km long cable made of carbon nanotubes that can
be a
> > cheap ride beyone geo sync orbit.
>
> I was doing the maths on this the other month and can't make it physically
> practical. I think, in order to have an always-taught rope from the
> Earth's surface you're talking about making it an order of magnitude
> longer than the distance of the moon. At those lengths, I'd expect
> relativity to cause problems too. If you made a rigid structre, providing
> you could support its own weight (doubtful), you would still have to
> accelerate the craft to orbital speeds without loosing altitude. Let's be
> honest, going 100km above the Earth's surface really doesn't make a lot of
> difference, execpt you can't use wings to supply some of the lift
> requirement.
>
> > 6) lastly but most importantly, would there be any legal problems if i
> > design my own version of orbiter that can use all the 3rd party modules?
i
> > want to make an open source version but dont want to have to re-invent
the
> > entire sim, was hoping i could re-use the 3rd party modules so i have
less
> > work to do. Would there be anything wrong with my sim using the
Shuttle.H
> > file or making it compatible with it?
>
> Hmm. Well first up, IANAL (that's your disclaimer). But no, I don't think
> there would be any *legal* problems, but there would probably be rather a
> lot of other problems. Might I suggest approaching Martin directly with an
> offer of help would be a more sensible route to take.
>
> Open source software is great if the person at the top of the tree has
> plenty of time and there is a very good heirarchy in place. When there
> isn't we see projects splitting all over the show (cf Emacs) and things
> get messy. Martin's almost certainly a very busy chap and whilst closed
> source puts a lot of pressure on him from a programming point of view, it
> solves rather more problems by him simply being able to say "no, I won't
> do anything for a few weeks".
>
> I understand your enthusiasm fully (I'd like a linux port, par exemple --
> never can get that winex thang to work), but see how far you can go
> within the current framework for a few months before you decide on a new
> project.
>
> This is all, to be taken as friendly advice and nothing more, you
> understand.
>
> --
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