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Re: [GZG] Battlecruisers



At 3:13 PM +0100 12/29/06, <oerjan.ariander@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Um... Ryan? You're looking at the wrong Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. There were two different sets of them - one in WW1 (sunk at the Falklands), and one in WW2. The stats you displayed are for the WW1 ones, but they were never called "battlecruisers" or "pocket battleships". Above I'm talking about the WW2 ones (it even says so explicitly in the section you quoted).

Doh, I was looking at the HazeGray.org battleship list and managed to only scroll down to the first set. I knew there were two (lots of ship name duplicates out there) but it slipped my mind at the time.


The *WW2* Scharnhorst and Gneisenau displaced 31-38'000 tonnes (pre-war and mid-war loads respectively), carried a main armament of 9x11" guns and a maximum armour thickness of 320mm, and had a top speed of 31.6 knots.

That makes them slightly *larger*, *faster* and *heavier armoured* than the Alaskas (at 34'000 tonnes, max armour 229mm and top speed 31.4 knots), though their main armament was somewhat lighter (9x11" guns vs the Alaskas' 9x12" guns).

Still seems like the Alaska's would have given them a hard time though. Armored to resist the guns of the G and S (it would seem) and heavier guns to pummel them. Not as much of a foregone conclusion though as I'd have thought. ;-)
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