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Re: [GZG] OODA




----- Original Message ----- From: <laserlight@xxxxxxxxxxx>


Thinking about a discussion of UGO IGO and turn-based games...I'd like to have a game which takes into account the reaction times of the different units--reaction time meaning OODA loops.
Now, in something like FT, and easy way to implement this would be impulses (but I should call them "turns" instead of "impulses" or the "Death to SFB" crowd will break out their pitchforks and torches). Nelson might be able to write orders every 3 impulses; Suffren every 4; Byng might only be able to write orders every 8 impulses. To some extent, your OODA speed would be a function of your navy's training, so most NAC commanders are, say about a 4....but you will still get a few 5's and 3's.


This would affect maneuvering, and possibly changing targets; it wouldn't affect your ROF against a current target.

Comments? And any ideas on how to apply it in a StarGrunt-like context?
If you want to introduce commander quality here are some ideas.
If you issue order counters to every unit at the start of the turn or issue the order sequence in an alternate action sequence then commanders could provide a number of extra order counters that could be assigned to units. The unit could then choose which order to implement depending on what the enemy units were ordered to do.
In an alternate activation sequence the skilled commanders could have the ability to resequnce their order stack and swap particular units order sequence. Better commanders could do this more times than novice ones.
Or you could assign a command characteristic that needs to be diced against to issue special orders to units, say to assault or rally or move at the double etc.


If you want these to be generic rather than GZG race specific then these abilities need to be assigned a points value so they can be selected by any army.

You could also have special characteristics such as "rash" which allows orders to be changed to assault or cautious which allows ordered changed to hold.
Maybe you should also have some "bad commander traits" that cheapen the points cost of the commander, say a crazed attribute that means you must allocate assault orders to one unit within command range.



From: "David Rodemaker" <dar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Unfortunately, this is exactly the problem we will have with SG3 (much as it exists in DS2) - we have a huge range in potential "tech" levels. Honestly, I don't think it's that much of a "game engine" problem and more a problem of how to resolve it in a "campaign" sense.

Nope, in a campaign setting or GM run game you can control thins how you like. This is exactly the problem for pick up games or tournament. I can't design my army and take it down to the local club or store and play anyone I might want to. Their army comes from a different era with different tech and point value.


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