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Re: [GZG] RE: Aus/NZ arms manufacture



HI guy's, us Australian's, did build own own tank, in ww2, called the sentinel, mk's 1,2,and 3.The armaments we 2, 6 and 25 pounder, and a flamethrower variant.
The tank hull was one single cast, and the turrent was a single cast that is, very hard for Australian manufacturer's to do back then, for our small manufactureing industry was just starting to make our own car's.so we really were not tooled for this type of vechicle.
We only made 66 unit's of this tank, and was reported to have never seen front line service in the Pacific threatre.


So I would say that retooling for a military vechicle wouldnt be any harder than releaseing a new family sedan,.
We do make our own light armoured troop vechicle the Bushmaster and we do modify the Lav 25, to our condition's.


But N.A.C or N.S.L would seem to be where the OU would by there big tanks and gear from.

But your gear is always supplied by the lowest bidder!

james m

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Fisher" <laranzu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gzg-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:02 PM
Subject: [GZG] RE: Aus/NZ arms manufacture



At 8:56 AM +1000 23/8/06, <Beth.Fulton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

 Neither NZ or Australia is likely to have the capability to
 manufacture arms in the next 50 years so they would need
 to buy them from somewhere. Historic links suggest their
 gear might will be Anglican.

What kind of arms are you talking about? We're developing new weapons all the time so I find that statement a bit odd.

The world seems to have entered a phase where some kinds of high-tech weapons are cheap as chips.

There were stories all over the Internet, some of them
even well-documented, about the guy in New Zealand who
built his own cruise missile. The government decided to
take it away from him.

Students in the Engineering faculty next door to me at
university build UAVs. At the end of each year students
put up posters about the work they've been doing. One
group put cameras on the UAV, low-light ones IIRC, for
tracking wildlife. Another group had done a feasibility
study of launching air-to-ground missiles from it!

Battle tanks are a bit harder, sure. But if Israel and
Sweden can build their own, Australia could probably
manage.

The big-iron items, warships and high performance jets,
seem likely to remain restricted to major industrial
powers. Unlike everything else, they are becoming more
and more expensive and difficult to make.

And the do-it-yourself UAVs and cruise missiles rely
on high performance CPUs which have become incredibly
difficult to manufacture. There's only about four or
five foundries in the world that could build a Pentium
4 chip, and they cost billions of dollars to set up.
Yet just about anyone can obtain one if they have a
few hundred $US.

Extrapolating to GZG, I imagine ship hulls and engines
to be fabulously expensive and valuable, so never ever
get junked. Old NAC/ESU/FSE/NSL hulls end up being
sold to lesser powers, where they are extensively
refitted with new electronics and software. Most of
the budget in such navies probably goes to welding
the hulls back together when they start to leak too
much.

cheers,
Hugh
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