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Today's Topics:
1. [OT] Revell of DE: SW Republic Star Destroyer (Doug Evans)
2. Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (Doug Evans)
3. Re: Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (Jaime Tiampo)
4. comin' to Colorado (was: Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums) (Indy)
5. Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (DOCAgren@xxxxxxx)
6. Re: [FT] Re: Somewhat off topic... Bases. (John K Lerchey)
7. Re: Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums and Somewhat off topic...
Bases (Doug Evans)
8. Re: [FT] Re: Somewhat off topic... Bases. (John K Lerchey)
9. Re: Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (Jaime Tiampo)
10. Re: Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums and Somewhat off topic...
Bases (Jaime Tiampo)
11. Re: Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (Doug Evans)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:09:28 -0500
From: Doug Evans <devans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [GZG] [OT] Revell of DE: SW Republic Star Destroyer
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After waxing lyric about the micro machines Republic Attack Cruiser, I've
found that Revell has created a <> 20in plastic model, unavailable in the
US. Is there anyone who knows a way to get one of these trans-shipped
across the briny?
The_Beast
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:17:29 -0500
From: Doug Evans <devans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
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wscottfield@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/10/2006 10:51:27 AM:
Just to offer a different viewpoint: for the occasional
reader like myself forums are sometimes easier to keep up
with, because it's easier to sort out the threads you're
interested in. Yes, I know it's not really *that* hard to
skim down the digest past the parts that don't interest
me. But on a busy day, if it looks like the digest is
mostly full of SG2 posts (great game, I just don't have
time to play it) then I may not take the time to sort out
the 2 or 3 interesting FT posts. (Not that I have much
time to play FT either, but...) And if I want to go back
and catch up on a thread that I missed, a forum is often
easier than scanning email archives.
Obvious not a 'different' viewpoint; shared by many. Right now, I'm
assuming not either/or, but one will win out eventually.
Another advantage forums have over mailing lists is that
some people are hesitant about sending their email address
out to people they don't know.
Mail lists can be set up to avoid that, though it's been a regular thing
for me to reply about something off list. Hidden addresses would tend to
kibosh that.
Also, some forums have the ability to email thread content
(either individually or in digest) to subscribers, if you
don't want to check the site regularly.
Still usually a one-way conversation.
Personally, I'm fine either way. And as infrequently as I
post anymore, no one should make decisions based on my
personal preferences either way. I'm just saying.
I speak more often, but I certainly don't suggest of more value. This list
cherishes it's lurkers, trust me. Just, Laserlight would hope they could
at
least send in a few AAR's of new rules. (SEE, still pitching, Chris!)
Notice, I did switch this back to BERKELEY!
From: Peter Thoenen <eol1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Ja I know I will never look at it. I can see how it
would be required
> from a marketting stand point (lets all admit it, its a
generational
> thing. Upcoming markets (ala children) want forums, IM,
mod'ing, and
> threads. Email and mailing lists are for us old fogies ;)
Wow! Been awhile since I was called too *young* for
anything, especially anything computer related - thanks! ;-)
Scott "Forty Years Young" Field
Only Forty? Damn, when did we let children in here... ;->=
Still two months away from senior discounts(and don't EVEN mention
retirement),
The_Beast
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jaime Tiampo" <fugugaipan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
To: gzg-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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To all those that went to the forums to check it out,
I've manually activated all the accounts, there was an error in the mail
setup for the forums which I hadn't caught yet (it's not public yet so I
tend to do all the adjustments in the admin panel until testing stage like
this ;)
The email problem has been corrected and all the accounts are now active.
Thanks for your time.
Jaime
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:23:01 -0400
From: Indy <indy.kochte@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [GZG] comin' to Colorado (was: Re: [LST] Mail list vs.
Forums)
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On 7/10/06, wscottfield@xxxxxxxxxxx <wscottfield@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[...]
Scott "Forty Years Young" Field
You're 40?? When did that happen???
Tell ya what, Scott. When I'm out in Colo next month, I'll let you trounce
me in a game of FT or two. :-)
Mk
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:23:44 EDT
From: DOCAgren@xxxxxxx
Subject: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
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Well, I'll be honest unless U have unlimited space, forum also run into
the
"well we are out of space, so we are deleting all data back to and as
someone
else mentioned earlier U have the ability to edit and remove/change your
posting after it been there. With the list, I don't think U can. And
to be
honest if the Mods of a forum, get a on a power trip, they can
block/delete
anything they disagree with, and no one can see the otherside. Here
years ago, I
was here for a "Remove JohnA" period and it passed, aMod who disliked John
Could ban him at will. I would prefer the list to remain, but I
understand
that "forum are the new way. Just don't have to like it..
DOCAGREN
Just a Lurker here on the Digest, But maybe I have a good idea or 2..
:-)
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:29:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Re: Somewhat off topic... Bases.
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Beast,
Much appreciated. Let me know how much you want for 'em when you find
'em. :)
Thanks!
J
John K. Lerchey
Assistant Director for Incident Response
Information Security Office
Carnegie Mellon University
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Doug Evans wrote:
John, I may have some extra; I'll have a look around, but you know how
that
goes...
The painful part is, I'm sure I've seen blisters of just the bases on
some
online shop, but just can't recall where.
The_Beast
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:31:15 -0500
From: Doug Evans <devans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums and Somewhat off
topic... Bases
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Jaime wrote on 07/10/2006 12:27:21 PM:
To all those that went to the forums to check it out,
I've manually activated all the accounts, there was an
error in the mail
setup for the forums which I hadn't caught yet (it's not
public yet so I
tend to do all the adjustments in the admin panel until
testing stage like
this ;)
The email problem has been corrected and all the accounts
are now active.
Thanks for your time.
Thanks! Please note I am not hostile to the idea, just hate to lose this
special place we have.
I've got tonnes that I can let you have. I don't use them. Fell free to
contact me directly and we'll work something out.
John, unless you can find other things at Noble Games to pick up, this
might be the way to go. With a minimum of $9.95, I'm having trouble
assuming you want 40+ bases, and, anyway, they may not have that many.
;->=
The_Beast
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:39:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Re: Somewhat off topic... Bases.
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Doug,
Ok, that just ROCKS. I ordered 12 packs. They originally sold for
something like $6.50, so without shipping that would have been $65. At
$0.95 per pack, plus shipping, it came to $18 even.
I owe you buddy!
Thanks!!!
John
John K. Lerchey
Assistant Director for Incident Response
Information Security Office
Carnegie Mellon University
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Doug Evans wrote:
Merde! Noble Knights claim to have blisters, $.95US per blister of four.
Don't know what shipping is like, can't recommend, as I've never traded
there,, just realized I'd seen 'em SOMEWHERE.
If you jump, let me know how it goes.
http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_2137418719_A_ManufacturerID_E_301_A_CategoryID_E_16_A_GenreID_E_
http://www.nobleknight.com/default.asp
The_Beast
ME wrote on 07/10/2006 11:54:10 AM:
John, I may have some extra; I'll have a look around, but
you know how that
goes...
The painful part is, I'm sure I've seen blisters of just
the bases on some
online shop, but just can't recall where.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:52:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jaime Tiampo" <fugugaipan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
To: gzg-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Well, I'll be honest unless U have unlimited space, forum also run into
the
"well we are out of space, so we are deleting all data back to and as
someone
That can happen. Usually that is with small "rented" space that's hosting
the forum. I don't know what Jon's service provider has available for him
but the server that the test forum is on (mine) has gigabytes of space
dedicated to things like this. If we double the usual list trafic, and add
in the in the test list's traffic (which the forum currently is also
designed for) I figure it'll be about 10 years before that would be an
issue. Space really isn't that much of an issue IF you think long term and
plan accordingly.
else mentioned earlier U have the ability to edit and remove/change your
posting after it been there. With the list, I don't think U can. And
to be
No always. It's an option that you can enable or disable. Most boards I
know disable it. You can also set a timer on it so no editing after a
certain period of time.
honest if the Mods of a forum, get a on a power trip, they can
block/delete
anything they disagree with, and no one can see the otherside. Here
years ago, I
was here for a "Remove JohnA" period and it passed, aMod who disliked
John
Could ban him at will. I would prefer the list to remain, but I
understand
that "forum are the new way. Just don't have to like it..
Correct that can happen. That's a staffing and management issue. To be
honest though a board can get away with very few moderators and if you
choose right, that shouldn't be an issue. If it becomes one the simple
solution is to remove the Mod.
Also Mods don't have to have complete access to the admin features. You
can limit Mod access in a variety of ways allowing them to do only
specific things. I've personally never had a Mod issue on any of my
forums.
Jaime
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:58:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jaime Tiampo" <fugugaipan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums and Somewhat off
topic... Bases
To: gzg-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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The email problem has been corrected and all the accounts
are now active.
Thanks for your time.
Thanks! Please note I am not hostile to the idea, just hate to lose this
special place we have.
I completely understand. The group here is great and it's one of the
things that makes GZG games so special. I'm just offering a tool, that if
Jon wants it in the end, to increase the community for GZG games. I've
just found some new recuits into the Tuffyverse from a 40K group I've been
playing with. I want to make it just as easy for others.
I've got tonnes that I can let you have. I don't use them. Fell free to
contact me directly and we'll work something out.
John, unless you can find other things at Noble Games to pick up, this
might be the way to go. With a minimum of $9.95, I'm having trouble
assuming you want 40+ bases, and, anyway, they may not have that many.
;->=
I was just going to give them to him for shipping ;-) Or he can trade some
ships for them ;-) I really have no use for them. I pin all my ships to
fit in generic bases with tube stands.
Jaime
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:02:38 -0500
From: Doug Evans <devans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
To: gzg-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Jaime wrote on 07/10/2006 12:52:17 PM:
***snippage***
> Here years ago, I was here for a "Remove JohnA" period
> and it passed, aMod who disliked John
> Could ban him at will. I would prefer the list to remain, but I
> understand that "forum are the new way. Just don't have to like it..
Correct that can happen. That's a staffing and management
issue. To be
honest though a board can get away with very few
moderators and if you
choose right, that shouldn't be an issue. If it becomes
one the simple
solution is to remove the Mod.
Can Mods be limited to a particular topic? I assume they can be restricted
to a particular section, say Game Discussion, or subsection, say, FMA
Skirmish, but, could I be given moderation of the topic I just started?
Not
asking to be the mod, just curious about the ganularity of control.
I just came up against another problem I have with forums: J/JS. ;->=
By the way, I was offering John bases of ships I've not built up since I
knew he'd get them into use long before I might. However, I may be
interested in a few extra myself. We'll talk....
The_Beast
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