Re: [GZG] Holy Roman Empire - new minor power

["John Brewer" <jbrewer@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, "Patrimonium Petrl" is a better name for the nation - I chose Holy Roman Empire for the name because the real Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, Roman, nor an empire.  The ecclesiastical naming of the ratings gave some character to the ranks - You can almost see how the uniform standard would play out.  As for the rest, "staremu" gave me the inspiration for this - I leave it up to him to flesh out the background.  

"Dictator" is a Battle Fleet Gothic designation for that class of ship.  What that class of ship is called in the Tuffleyverse is something more appropriate to the ecclesiastical nature of the nation.  

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Sent: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:32:54 -0700
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Subject: Re: [GZG] Holy Roman Empire - new minor power


-----Original Message-----
> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:34:34 +0200
> Subject: Re: [GZG] Holy Roman Empire - new minor power
> From: "Laserlight" 
> To: 

> From: "John Brewer"
> > The Holy Roman Empire is based on the Papal States of the
> > Renaissance.
> > 
> 
> You're talking about two different entities.
> The HRE was predominantly German--in fact, the full name was the "Holy
> Roman Empire of the German Nation". It did include parts of northern
> Italy at one point but Rome was never the center of temporal power for
> the Empire, and it was ruled (more or less--mostly less) by the
> Emperor rather than the Pope.

I agree with "Laserlight" here.

When I saw the title, I thought  "Interesting, an NSL breakaway". 

I suggest you rename it to "The Papal State", "Patrimonium PetrI" or
something equally ecclesiastic.

Probably the background needs rather more development than you have
offered in your post.

Does the Pope actually reside in your state ? 
If so, what happened to/in Rome ?
If not, how is his relation with this state ?

How did they get populated ?

Are the military officers actually priests ? A pretty unlikely
proposition, though there have been occasional examples of
priests/bishops leading forces, but this was never their primary
function. 
If not, they would definitely not be allowed to use priestly ranks.

The ships' names seem wrong. Typically, Catholic Medieval nations named
their ships after saints, and always with a "San", "Saint", "Santa"
added to the name. 

And a ship named "Dictator" ?

Greetings
Karl Heinz




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