Re: [GZG] Holy Roman Empire - new minor power

["Laserlight" <laserlight@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

From: "John Brewer"
> The Holy Roman Empire is based on the Papal States of the Renaissance.

 You're talking about two different entities.
 The HRE was predominantly German--in fact, the full name was the "Holy 
Roman Empire of the German Nation". It did include parts of northern Italy 
at one point but Rome was never the center of temporal power for the Empire, 
and it was ruled (more or less--mostly less) by the Emperor rather than the 
Pope.
  The Papal States included parts of Italy (and a bit of France, for a 
while) in which the Pope had temporal authority. At one point (1100-1300 or 
so, IIRC) the PS were de facto under control of the HRE, but even then the 
PS were nominally independent. 

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