Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

[Ground Zero Games <jon@xxxxxxx>]

> I thought someone else had the license for the vehicles. I think the 25mm
> stuff was before the deal.
>
> http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/hammers.htm


OK, the condensed version of the full story is this:

We did the 25mm "Slammers" vehicles in our range (SF25-101, 102, 103) 
in collaboration with South London Warlords (specifically, John 
Treadaway), before the Handbook project was ever mentioned. The 
vehicle designs were the nearest that John and I could come up with 
between us based on what little design material had already been 
published in various places.
Then, when the Slammers Handbook project was started and Dave Drake 
gave his approval for it, it turned out that our visualisations were 
not quite what the author had in his mind while writing - so after 
some discussions it was decided that Jez at Old Crow would do some 
new ones based on David's descriptions, while we concentrated on 
doing the infantry, again to Drake's descriptions. However, David has 
always been very happy with us continuing to do our original vehicle 
designs, to the extent that they have been written into the handbook 
as earlier marks still in use by other units. I'd like to take this 
opportunity to point out that Dave Drake  is a REALLY nice guy, and 
has been wonderfully supportive of the whole thing!  :-)

> Jon, do you have figs in the starter packs with rules?
>
> http://www.miniwargames.com/


Yes, MiniWarg's starter pack uses our 15mm figures along with the Old 
Crow vehicles - you get some of our 15mm slammers (of course) plus 
some NSL troops as the opposition force.

> And, having put my foot in it in the past, is there any hard feelings
> betwixt thee and Old Crow? Just seemed natural that you'd both have links
> to the other. A simple answer to my first question of "Yes, now hush!" is
> enough.


No problems at all between us and Jez at OC - he's a nice guy and a 
really talented designer, and the stuff he's working on is quite 
different from ours in most cases - I think we complement each other 
rather than directly compete.

Jon (GZG)

> The_Beast
>
> Mark wrote on 04/07/2006 12:56:16 PM:
>
> ***snippage***
> >  What about Slammers???
> >
> >  Thanks for soliciting opinions. You're the best Jon.
>
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