Re: Re: [GZG] DSIII q

[John K Lerchey <lerchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Lots of stuff is being commented out on this one, as I only have a couple 
of things to address. :)

John K. Lerchey
Assistant Director for Incident Response
Information Security Office
Carnegie Mellon University

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Oerjan Ariander wrote:

> > 1) Vehicles are SLOW. Flat out most can't achieve 15mph.
>
> ... and the only vehicles capable of achieving 15 mph were Combat VTOLs in 
> Travel Mode and AeroSpace craft; the maximum possible speed for DS2 *ground* 
> vehicles was 7.5 mph (for Grav and Fast GEV vehicles) :-/

Yeah.  I recalled them being slow, but didn't recall HOW slow. ;)

> And you did far more succinctly than I could, too :-)

Thank you.

> On OGREs:
>
> Translating the "feel" of one game faithfully into another game is always 
> difficult; it is usually much easier to capture the feel of SF novels. IOW, 
> don't work too hard on modeling *OGREs* in DS3 - concentrate on modelling 
> *BOLOs* instead ;-)

Yup.  I like the feel of the OGREs as a separate genre, but don't think 
that the models map very well to Bolos.  Because of that, I'll do big, 
scary cybertanks that are OGRE-esque, but the rules will not be radically
faithful to the OGRE game.  My OGRE fighting NRA forces (Combine) inlcude 
GEVs modified into rotor-bladed VTOLs, AA tanks, and other less OGRE-verse 
stuff so that they fit better in the DS realm.

> I don't really favour increasing the Armour Die type, because it makes the 
> armour performance less predictable - D10s and D12s have higher maximum and 
> average results than D8s do, but they still roll "1"s occasionally. The only 
> real reason to increase the Armour Die type instead of the Armour Rating is 
> to make the OGRE harder to hurt with larger heavy weapons while still 
> allowing Size/1 weapons to damage it...

Yup.  I'm aware of your reluctance to change the armor die.  I'm going to 
try a D10 anyway with the OGREs as it is my belief that the *worst* that 
can happen is that don't ever roll 9,0, and aren't any better off than a 
target rolling a D8. :)

> Being robotic, it should also have a Motivation Number of 0.

I have Orange 0 counters from my DSII OGRE rules. :)
Already there.

> I'm looking forward to it :-) Which reminds me that I still haven't painted 
> my own OGREttes - those Mk Is and Mk IIs might not be any good against real 
> OGREs (Mk IIIs and larger), but they're still a handful for lesser vehicles 
> <g>

I have some Is and IIs painted up, and have used them.  They tend to be a 
transitional unit IMHO.  Not OGRE-ish enough to act like a fully blown 
OGRE, but a little harder to kill than a really big tank.  As I get things 
playable for DS3, I'll certainly try the OGREettes at some point. :)

J
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