Re: Re: [GZG] DSIII q

[Oerjan Ariander <oerjan.ariander@xxxxxxxxx>]

Laserlight wrote:

> >The 2nd DS3 game at the recent ECC was finished in less than *1* full 
> game turn - the >defenders' morale collapsed before all the attacking 
> units had had a chance to activate >even once...
>
> Which seems a bit odd.  I'd rather have a game which usually goes 4-6 
> turns, I think, and perhaps shorter turns, although I confess I don't know 
> how I'd do that.

to which TomB added:

> I'm with Laserlight on this one. At the pace of modern armour engagements, 
> 2-3 minutes per turn would seem more sensible to me.

As John already posted, the actual shooting parts of a DS3 battle are 
resolved in tactical combat rounds of 20 seconds each (including movement). 
The 15-minute turns handle movement outside actual combat as well as more 
time-consuming actions (eg. reorganizing or rallying units, preparing 
demolitions, picking up casualties, minor repairs to vehicles etc).

A game turn of 2-3 minutes is (obviously) shorter than a 15-minute turn, 
but it is still much too long for resolving combat without subdivisions - 
even the 20-second tactical combat rounds is stretching it for tank combat, 
but we had to compromize a bit to make infantry work too. At the same time 
a 2-3 minute game turn is too short to allow the more time-consuming 
actions to be resolved within a single turn.

***
Laserlight again:

> Which reminds me, on Friday night at ECC we had a unit in Company B break, 
> and the morale penalty was applied to the whole force (ie company A and 
> the HQ platoon). Is that the way we should have done it, or should it only 
> have applied to Co B units?

It should only have applied to Co B units.

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Back to TomB:

> The other nice thing about contemplating a 2 minute turn is this: 5-7 
> turns would fit with
> one notional FT turn but at 2 minutes a turn, you'd be fairly close to a 
> stargrunt time
> scale. So you could do 1:1 crossover games.

An SG2 turn is nominally 5 minutes, so with a 2.5-minute DS3 turn you'd get 
2:1 crossover games instead of the current 1:3 cross-overs... and Full 
Thrust game turns can represent anything from a little over a minute to 
upwards of 20 minutes depending on who you ask :-/ (FWIW the FT time and 
distance scales I prefer are 1 turn = 100 seconds, 1 mu = 100 km, 1 thrust 
= 10 m/s^2)...

Later,

Oerjan
oerjan.ariander@xxxxxxxxx

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 What you get out of it, depends on what you put into it."
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