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Re: [GZG] [FT] Graser-1s again



Hugh Fisher wrote:

>A Full Thrust battle isn't a series of independent
>statistical events. If one side inflicts above average
>damage in a turn, the other sides may have thresholds
>or destroyed ships which reduce their average damage
>from then on, which makes it harder for them to catch
>back up. It's the compound advantage effect, and like
>compound interest it builds up faster as the gap
>between the two sides increases.

This was described mathematically by F.W. Lanchester in 1916, and is the basis for all accurate points systems. It doesn't just apply within a single game turn, BTW: if one side inflicts damage in an earlier game turn while the other side does not, the side which inflicted damage earlier also starts building up a compound advantage. In most cases it is the side with the longer-ranged weapons which does this.

The compound advantage effect also works *against* the G1, since its short range often allows enemies with longer-ranged weapons to start building their own compound advantage before the G1 can return fire - and when this happens, the G1 needs a lucky hit just to catch up. FWIW this is why weapons grow bigger faster than their range increases, ie. to compensate for the compound advantage they can gain by being able to open fire earlier. To continue your "fast G1-armed DD" example, six fast DDs with a pair of 3-arc G1s each are very dangerous if they can get close enough to fire... but against most opponents I would expect one or two of them to be crippled by long-range fire before they ever get into G1 range and another couple or so knocked out after getting into G1 range but before they can fire their own weapons.

However, if you are consistently able to close the range before the enemy's long-ranged weapons have built up any significant advantage then you will find the shorter-ranged weapons correspondingly more powerful since they have little or no catching-up to do. Some FT gaming groups, eg. the Canberra group, appear to be better at closing the range quickly than others are - even other groups which play with the same or very similar table sizes and initial velocities. Exactly how you do this I don't know, which is why I keep asking you guys for detailed AARs :-/

Anyway:

If you find the Graser too unpredictable, remove its rerolls and reduce its points cost to 3xMass to compensate; this curbs the most extreme results but doesn't change the lower end of the performance range much. OK, one of your White Star cruisers could still vapourize an enemy battleship with a single salvo if it rolled 4 "6"s followed by 8 "5"s or "6"s, but without the rerolls that's a ~1/8,000,000 chance or less rather than ~1:100.

Increasing the G1's Mass (or cost) without changing its damage mechanics is essentially the same as saying that you *must* score mega-hits to have a chance to win the battle. Yes, the G1's average destructive potential is similar to that of a P-torp as long as the target is unscreened and the G1 is in range to fire - but the P-torp has a longer maximum range, better hit probability at range 12 and less, and ignores any screens the target might have (which gives it a better hit probability than the G1 at range 12-18 as well if the target is screened). Similarly G1s that miss are no worse off than B2s that miss - but at most ranges the G1s miss far more often than the same points value of B2s do simply because the G1s fire fewer to-hit dice.

John Tailby's variant, reducing the damage to 1D3 per hit and halving the weapon Mass, reduces the unpredictability a bit but *increases* the average damage per weapon Mass by 14%.

Later,

Oerjan
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