Re: [GZG] Monster ships

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missles are hard to kill, (PDS , Class ones and skatter packs need a 6
to kill it) with its mixed war heads makes them a great first strike
weapon. I still put beam batteries on the mid sized to large sized
vessles so they are able maintain fire fight. I beleave the inclusion of
MT (or smart) missles make those cheap escorts a pain to the enimy and
capitals afraid. I beleave the FCT would use the MT missles to bolster
their fire power with attack boats that can long range selective strike
to keep the the other major powers honest.

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, John Tailby <john_tailby@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

From: John Tailby <john_tailby@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [GZG] Monster ships
To: gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 6:06 PM

Eric
 
Im't not really sure what you mean by your first point. All fleets need
a doctrine against missile defence and our gaming group has had several
people that have made fleets based around the MT capitol missiles (like
the islamic fleets only moreso inspired by Honour Harrington type
universes). 
 
If a fleet is primarily missile armed it will run out of ammo and need
to get resupplied in ways that a beam, PT or K-gun fleet won't.
 
If facing a missile armed fleet, i'ts much more cost effective to have a
cloud of mass 3 missile attracter scout drones in close proximity to
your capital ships to protect them from missile strike than it is to use
destroyers. They still die after absorbing the same number of missile
strikes and you get a lot more scout drones than you do destroyers.
 
Destroyers get used in our campaigns a lot like light cavalry. They are
best for raiding the enemy backfield and engaging in supply route
interdiction. They are also good for securing lines of supply to ensure
that the enemy doesn't simply try to interdict with drones and frigates.

From: Eric Foley <stiltman@teleport.com>
To: gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu
Sent: Mon, 11 January, 2010 11:40:23 AM
Subject: Re: [GZG] Monster ships

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From: John Tailby 

>I agree that the any and all fleets can take logistics ships to the
area of operations,
>they then need to be defended by escorts, if brought near the combat
zone or the fighting >ships have to pull back to rearm leaving the
battle area to beam armed ships. It all 
>depends on how you want to run your supply PSB.

Unless the tactical scenario is just making it very easy for the beam
armed ships, they're going to need either a very good defensive
formation, Kra'Vak scale maneuverability, or a lot of luck to survive a
direct engagement with a well-designed missile fleet.

>Destroyers don't really have any role in fleet actions. They go pop
really quickly in fleet
>actions so unless you allow them to be raiders they really have little
or no role in the
>game. Scouts would be mass 3 sensor drones and then you just build
fleet ships.

I've personally found two very effective missions for destroyer-sized
craft.  One is to more or less make them over as submarine assassins
with cloaking devices and needle beams, and have them cripple a slower
capital ship with a nasty hit to drives, screens, or what have you
before the main battle begins.  The other is as an escort screen for
larger ships against salvo missiles.  Big ships are pretty vulnerable
to them if they don't have these screens, and putting a few
limited-ordnance shots on the destroyers (such as SMRs of their own)
along wtih some area defense and just having them scattered around all
the capital ships is a pretty effective (if suicidal) use for them.

E
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