Re: [GZG] Troop potential

And there is always the case of missing items from various armories sold
old 
off to various underworld figures, or souvenireed by 'collectors' and
then 
getting stolen and modified.

One of the big things lately in Australia was missing Rocket Launchers
being 
sold off to some underworld figures.

Robyn Stott

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian1" <al.ll@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GZG] Troop potential

> Isn't it possible in some countries to get hold of military grade
> vehicles including MBTs.  I don't know what the heaviest weapon a
> civilian is allowed to have but a bunch of ex-army techs with a mind
to
> cause trouble might be able to do so,
>
> Who remembers that new footage of the National guardsmans who stole an
> MBT and joyrid it down th e motorway.
>
> In themsleves they may not be much of a threat but if they're hired
but
> organised crime......
>
> KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: John Tailby <john_tailby@xtra.co.nz>
>>>
>>>  > ----- Original Message ----
>>>
>>>> From: Robert Mayberry robert.mayberry@gmail.com [1]
>>>>
>>>  > I wonder whether the use of peacetime conscription changes a
>>>
>>>> country's culture appreciably? I'm inclined to say it should, but I
>>>>
>> haven't
>>
>>>> seen anything on it.
>>>>
>>> Yes, the unemployed gang members now have military tactics training,
>>> more experience with weapons and possibly more reason to hate
society.
>>> Now they have the skills to do something about it. Definately a
>>> culture change for the better.
>>>
>>
>> This is only an issue where 'unemployed gang members' are a problem
in
>> the first place and where they have easy access to military type
>> weapons.
>>
>> I don't think military-trained criminal gangs have ever been a
serious
>> problem in the European countries that have a draft, nor in the US at
>> the time when they had conscription.
>>
>> A highly unusual exception happened a few years ago when Hell's
Angels
>> in Sweden (or was it Denmark ?) fought their turf wars with Bazookas
>>
>> Plus, in modern forces, most recruits don't learn that much about
>> tactics that are useful in gang warfare. Maintaining a tank engine in
a
>> ghetto war ?
>>
>> Greetings
>> Karl Heinz
>>
>>
>>
>>
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