Re: [GZG] Armoured utility vehicles and IEDs in SG/DS

How effective were the Viet Congs booby traps - specifically those that 
used a captured 50 cal bullet buried in the ground while sitting on a 
nail.  I can only imagine that you could carpet an area in these very 
quickly.

Would one of these cause sufficient damage to a vehicle to stop it.

Presumably, its possible to do the same with large rounds like the 25mm 
HE rounds.

Eli Arndt wrote:
> This question is an odd one. Isn't an IED, by its very nature,
improvised.
> If you are designing a device to do the job of an IED, it's not an
IED, it's
> pretty much a mine or some other form of ED.
>
> IEDs can be effective, but they are the sort of thing used by
militaries
> that either don't have access to or a ready supply of more
conventional
> devices that do the same job. If you are a professional army with
mines, you
> are unlikely to need or use IEDs.
>
> -Eli
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gzg-l-bounces@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:gzg-l-bounces@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
> Mayberry
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:14 AM
> To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [GZG] Armoured utility vehicles and IEDs in SG/DS
>
> John, what's your view of an IED-like device designed for use by a
> professional army? Would it be any better/different from a
> conventional anti-vehicle mine? By "army" I don't necessarily mean
> technologically advanced, but definitely organized and equipped for a
> conventional war. From your description, it doesn't sound like it has
> any value unless you're a guerilla with lots of imported explosives,
> and even then is pretty counterable.
>
>
>
> On 7/16/08, John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Here's what most people in this conversation aren't tracking.  As
much
>> as you want to put together scenarios that approach or incorporate
>> elements of real-world situations, they make shitty games.  Sorry.
>> Your average IED incident lasts moments, and rarely incoporates
>> anything more than a device and possibly a few secondary devices.  If
>> small arms fire is encountered as part of the attack, you're talking
a
>> handful of jackasses blazing away with unaimed fire from a building
>> far enough away that it can't be positively identified.  It's over in
>> less than a minute, because if they stick around, they end up very,
>> very dead.  We've been killing lots of insurgents for five years, and
>> most of the ones who want to die for Allah already have.  The rest
are
>> linking up with cells capable of putting them behind the wheel of a
>> car loaded with explosives to drive into an Iraqi Police Station or a
>> market full of women and kids.
>>     
>
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