Re: [GZG] Armoured utility vehicles and IEDs in SG/DS

This question is an odd one. Isn't an IED, by its very nature,
improvised.
If you are designing a device to do the job of an IED, it's not an IED,
it's
pretty much a mine or some other form of ED.

IEDs can be effective, but they are the sort of thing used by militaries
that either don't have access to or a ready supply of more conventional
devices that do the same job. If you are a professional army with mines,
you
are unlikely to need or use IEDs.

-Eli

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[mailto:gzg-l-bounces@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Mayberry
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:14 AM
To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [GZG] Armoured utility vehicles and IEDs in SG/DS

John, what's your view of an IED-like device designed for use by a
professional army? Would it be any better/different from a
conventional anti-vehicle mine? By "army" I don't necessarily mean
technologically advanced, but definitely organized and equipped for a
conventional war. From your description, it doesn't sound like it has
any value unless you're a guerilla with lots of imported explosives,
and even then is pretty counterable.

On 7/16/08, John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's what most people in this conversation aren't tracking.  As much
> as you want to put together scenarios that approach or incorporate
> elements of real-world situations, they make shitty games.  Sorry.
> Your average IED incident lasts moments, and rarely incoporates
> anything more than a device and possibly a few secondary devices.  If
> small arms fire is encountered as part of the attack, you're talking a
> handful of jackasses blazing away with unaimed fire from a building
> far enough away that it can't be positively identified.  It's over in
> less than a minute, because if they stick around, they end up very,
> very dead.  We've been killing lots of insurgents for five years, and
> most of the ones who want to die for Allah already have.  The rest are
> linking up with cells capable of putting them behind the wheel of a
> car loaded with explosives to drive into an Iraqi Police Station or a
> market full of women and kids.

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