Re: [GZG] [Real World] Russian Mig 29 shoots down Georgian UAV

You can easily rule out an F-16.  The twin vertical stabilizers is
clearly seen, and the F-16 only has a single vertical stabilizer.

--Greg

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Sylvester Wrzesinski wrote:

> Adrian1 wrote:
>
>> Two questions.
>>
>> Whose airspace was it?  If it wasn't Georgian they don't have any
say.
>>
>>
> Assuming enough time and aireal recon, one could probably ID the
section
> of coast that is in the footage to some degree of certanty. There's
only
> a small portion of coast it could be, realistically.
>
>> Is it standard procedure for jet fighters to attack airborne targets
>> from the front?
>>
>>
> Okay, without knowing the exact model of UAV, just the fact it was
> "purchased from Israel" and coupling that with this link :
>
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/uav/hermes_450/Hermes_45
0.html
> Which has multiple pictures of a UAV that seems to have had some
export
> success, I believe that the fighter aircraft approached low and to the
> left of the UAV, probably 7-8 o'clock or so (estimated from apparent
> position of cams on the UAV and the shot of the landing wheel in said
> footage, including it's support strut). So I don't think the fighter
was
> making an attack from the rear. From his maneuvering, he probably came
> up from the rear and then hooked "left" (from the orientation of the
> UAV's nose) before swinging right into an attack position. Granted he
> did approach quite closely, but it is also possible he wanted to
eyeball
> the target and confirm it was a UAV. (assumption is that it had the
same
> radar signal as a small civillian plane. Last thing you want to do is
be
> responsable for that kinda thing...)
>
> That beign said, it seemed damn ballsy to do it. The missile might be
a
> bit of overkill, but assuming that they wanted it down quick and for
> sure, it's the best way to do it.
>
>> Is it possible the owners of the airspace had Russian aircraft?  They
do
>> seem to pop up everywhere.
>>
>>
> That's another good question. They're rather decent sellers IIRC to
> anyone with the cash who isn't going to be pointing them right back at
> them... However, it is possible that they might be able to amplify the
> picture and perhaps pull some more identifiers on the aircraft.
> Additionally, they might be able to do some photo analysis to identify
> the specific aircraft. Granted they do look similar (varions migs,
F-16)
> I imagine the actual geometry is somewhat different. Given the
> relatively small amount of distance from cockpit to tail rudders, they
> could work out some general measurements and compare them to known
> geometry of the fighters in question. If the geometry dosen't match
that
> of the F-16, but comes very close to the MiG-29, well....
>
>
>
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