RE: Re: [GZG] John's Shipbuilding

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whether FT models Age of Sail naval warfare or WW1 or 2.  In the Age of
Sail it was difficult to destroy warships so often they surrendered.
However there are very few instances of warships in WW2 surrendering in
combat. Even the German destroyers at Narvik, out of all ammunition, and
virtually out of fuel scuttled themselves rather than surrender. If I
recall correctly in WW2 only 3 or 4 submarines surrendered, often when
they thought the boat was sinking. So I don’t favour the surrendering
of warships if FT models “modern” naval warfare, however merchant
ships and scuttling are another matter.
   
  Ian


andrew apter <apter@bellsouth.net> wrote:
  In what cases would an immobile ship strike 

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Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Re: [GZG] John's Shipbuilding

On 1/17/06, John Tailby wrote:

> Each ship could get a leadership value just like in Dirt Side and
could
take leadership tests at the end of every phase they take hull damage.

I'm not entirely sure of this. My read is that the crew didn't get to
vote with their feet like in a land fight. What I mean is that if an
infantry unit's morale crumbles the troops may surrender, run for the
hills, or just hunker down and hide. This is not an option on a
warship except in the case of boarding actions.

What was more likely was that the officers make a professional
judgement that their ship can no longer contribute to the fight, and
that withdrawl is practical at that time. Either that, or upon
reading the damage reports they send up, their senior officer orders
them to withdraw. As that is a matter of professional judgement on
the part of somewhat senior officers I'm not comfortable making it a
pure dice roll.

What I would prefer would be victory conditions that value withdrawal
of damaged units, to give the players a motive to act like historical
admirals.

John
--
"Thousands of Sarmatians, Thousands of Franks, we've slain them again
and again. We're looking for thousands of Persians."
--Vita Aureliani

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